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Old 06-05-2011, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default President Obama Talks to the Troops
I just finished watching President Obama and VP Biden address troops at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky; home of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, who participated in the raid on Bin Laden's compound. The president and VP both gave very dignified, moving speeches, honoring the men and giving special recognition to the units involved in the operation. The troops responded with thunderous applause, enthusiastic shout outs, laughter, a room filled with hundreds of smiles. This president seems to be hitting his stride.
Very poor optics for the Republicans. What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:07 PM   #2
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A lot can happen between now and November 2012. Obama shouldn't let his guard down.

I'll echo what some others have said: I'm not sure if we've even seen the 2012 GOP candidate yet. Laying low right now is probably a good idea for them.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:09 PM   #3
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I just finished watching President Obama and VP Biden address troops at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky; home of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, who participated in the raid on Bin Laden's compound. The president and VP both gave very dignified, moving speeches, honoring the men and giving special recognition to the units involved in the operation. The troops responded with thunderous applause, enthusiastic shout outs, laughter, a room filled with hundreds of smiles. This president seems to be hitting his stride.
Very poor optics for the Republicans. What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
Mr. Obama said that “we don’t need to spike the football.”... That must have been pre 2012 campaign Obama...

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Old 06-05-2011, 09:14 PM   #4
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I heard that next he is planning a trip to PA, and then to the pentagon.. its a cool victory lap...
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:17 PM   #5
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A lot can happen between now and November 2012. Obama shouldn't let his guard down.

I'll echo what some others have said: I'm not sure if we've even seen the 2012 GOP candidate yet. Laying low right now is probably a good idea for them.
I fear what will bring Obama down is the economy. Not that a Repub could do any better, in fact, I think they would finish us off, but that is the way this deal works when so many folks are suffering from lack of jobs.

I think we are where we are due to the Pubs, and their lust for smaller gov't that no longer regulates the financial sector. The deregs brought us the tax payer bailout of the S and Ls, and now this last one in 08. The deregs layed the ground for those crashes, and yet the Pubs see nothing wrong with it. In fact, they wish to dereg even more. The mess today is a result of THEM getting some of what they wanted. And it would be a shame if Obama gets beat by THEIR fuckups with this economy, and we put those jackwags back in. It ain't no coincidence that the Dems gave us 50 years of soundness, and it only took a couple decades for the Cons to fuck up success. Yet few are bright enough to see the harm. History is a bitch to deal with. Makes some want to change it, through revision. And it works on the dimwits.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:21 PM   #6
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What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
Why... I'm so glad you asked.

Why is Libya taking so long?
What is going on in Egypt? Syria? Bahrain?
Why is Iran being allowed to get the bomb?
Why is OPEC raping us at the pump?
What do we do with Fatah now that they are making deals with Hamas?
What is the long term plan for the squabbling Iraqi factions?
Why is Taliban militia still able to cross into Afghanistan from Pakistan?
What is the plan to build up Afghanistan so it won't be a haven for terror?
What do we do about a very divided Pakistan?

And thats just Middle Eastern foreign policy.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:53 PM   #7
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I just finished watching President Obama and VP Biden address troops at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky; home of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, who participated in the raid on Bin Laden's compound. The president and VP both gave very dignified, moving speeches, honoring the men and giving special recognition to the units involved in the operation. The troops responded with thunderous applause, enthusiastic shout outs, laughter, a room filled with hundreds of smiles. This president seems to be hitting his stride.
Very poor optics for the Republicans. What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
I think it was best said at the GOP debates last night--coming from another African American-running for the RNC presidential candidate--Herman Cain.

"Doing one thing right does not make for a good President"

During the Gulf War we saw Bush 1's approval rating shoot clear up in the 90's. One year later it was down in the 20's.

Reason: "The economy stupid"

Furthermore--Everyone knows how they found Bin Laden. G.W. Bush's policies that got Obama the prize. Obama has yet to acknowledge Bush's policies--or give him credit for any of this. This doesn't rub well with millions of Americans--who remember--Obama's stance on Bush's policies of enhanced interrogation--which Obama outlawed.

The point is--there wouldn't have been a ball to key an eye on--if it were not for G.W. Bush.

So--without Obama coming out and recognizing Bush in a good way regarding his policies on enhanced interrogation technics--the keeping open of GITMO--and his efforts to make all government agencies work together--this is really a very HOLLOW political victory for Obama.

Barack Obama would have to throw himself under the bus to save face--and his ego won't let him do it. He's hoping that we have forgotten everything he campaigned on--everything he stated--and all of the vicious attacks that he launched at G.W. Bush regarding his policies on terrorism. And that's not going to happen. In fact, we're being reminded of it daily--by the news media. In essense--the GOP has WMD in their back pockets regarding this--and it's just sitting there in the archives--waiting for election season.

IOW--this won't last.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:12 PM   #8
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I just finished watching President Obama and VP Biden address troops at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky; home of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, who participated in the raid on Bin Laden's compound. The president and VP both gave very dignified, moving speeches, honoring the men and giving special recognition to the units involved in the operation. The troops responded with thunderous applause, enthusiastic shout outs, laughter, a room filled with hundreds of smiles. This president seems to be hitting his stride.
Very poor optics for the Republicans. What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
Sorry but he now looks like he can't get enough adulation to pump up his ego. It's all about him. And the sour economy and jobs he has no clue, but heck maybe he can string this OBL thing out to 11/2012. Just keep making victory speeches and the hell with the rest.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:45 PM   #9
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Mr. Obama said that “we don’t need to spike the football.”... That must have been pre 2012 campaign Obama...

No, President Obama's speech today was nothing like when President Bush dramatically declared "Mission Accomplished", donning a flight suit as though he had just landed the aircraft himself. Now that's spiking the ball.
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Old 06-05-2011, 11:49 PM   #10
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What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
Barack Obama suggested last night that removing Osama bin Laden from the battlefield was no longer essential and that America's security goals could be achieved merely by keeping al-Qaeda "on the run".

"My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him," he said. "But if we have so tightened the noose that he's in a cave somewhere and can't even communicate with his operatives then we will meet our goal of protecting America."

His comments, in a CBS interview, represent a significant watering down of the "dead or alive" policy pursued by President Bush since the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. They also appear to contradict Mr Obama's own statements made in the election campaign.


Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden - Times Online
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:24 AM   #11
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I think it was best said at the GOP debates last night--coming from another African American-running for the RNC presidential candidate--Herman Cain.

"Doing one thing right does not make for a good President"

During the Gulf War we saw Bush 1's approval rating shoot clear up in the 90's. One year later it was down in the 20's.

Reason: "The economy stupid"

Furthermore--Everyone knows how they found Bin Laden. G.W. Bush's policies that got Obama the prize. Obama has yet to acknowledge Bush's policies--or give him credit for any of this. This doesn't rub well with millions of Americans--who remember--Obama's stance on Bush's policies of enhanced interrogation--which Obama outlawed.

The point is--there wouldn't have been a ball to key an eye on--if it were not for G.W. Bush.

So--without Obama coming out and recognizing Bush in a good way regarding his policies on enhanced interrogation technics--the keeping open of GITMO--and his efforts to make all government agencies work together--this is really a very HOLLOW political victory for Obama.

Barack Obama would have to throw himself under the bus to save face--and his ego won't let him do it. He's hoping that we have forgotten everything he campaigned on--everything he stated--and all of the vicious attacks that he launched at G.W. Bush regarding his policies on terrorism. And that's not going to happen. In fact, we're being reminded of it daily--by the news media. In essense--the GOP has WMD in their back pockets regarding this--and it's just sitting there in the archives--waiting for election season.

IOW--this won't last.
Herman Cain speaks nothing but generalities and platitudes, he uses the kind of superficial rhetoric that just doesn't persuade anyone outside the right wing base. He may not know anything about running a nation; but as the guy in charge at Godfather's Pizza I'm pretty sure he could provide Americans with special insight regarding the long running dispute between New York or Chicago style. He might even be able to recommend some extra toppings.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:13 AM   #12
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I'm pretty sure he could provide Americans with special insight regarding the long running dispute between New York or Chicago style. He might even be able to recommend some extra toppings.
And then the community organizer can pass them out.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:24 AM   #13
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Anyone who thinks a stunning military victory ensures a second term for a President is an idiot.

George H.W. Bush served only one term...
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:40 AM   #14
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Herman Cain speaks nothing but generalities and platitudes, he uses the kind of superficial rhetoric that just doesn't persuade anyone outside the right wing base. He may not know anything about running a nation; but as the guy in charge at Godfather's Pizza I'm pretty sure he could provide Americans with special insight regarding the long running dispute between New York or Chicago style. He might even be able to recommend some extra toppings.
You mean like that community something or other Obama
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:38 AM   #15
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when bush came here 3 times now there were lines to get in to see him and massive traffic jams to get on the post

Obama comes and you cant even tell he was here .......
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:57 AM   #16
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A couple of weeks ago it was Donald Trump, now it's Herman Cain. I could almost feel sorry for Republicans; no direction and desperate for any kind of leadership.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:44 AM   #17
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when bush came here 3 times now there were lines to get in to see him and massive traffic jams to get on the post

Obama comes and you cant even tell he was here .......
Sore losers sad that this OBL raid business didn't happen on Bush's watch?
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Old 11-05-2011, 11:00 AM   #18
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I just finished watching President Obama and VP Biden address troops at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky; home of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, who participated in the raid on Bin Laden's compound. The president and VP both gave very dignified, moving speeches, honoring the men and giving special recognition to the units involved in the operation. The troops responded with thunderous applause, enthusiastic shout outs, laughter, a room filled with hundreds of smiles. This president seems to be hitting his stride.
Very poor optics for the Republicans. What will they use for a 2012 campaign strategy now?
You are not trying to say that Obama's 2012 campaign strategy is talking well to the military are you? (Just asking as it seems odd to link the two the way you have.)
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:19 PM   #19
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when bush came here 3 times now there were lines to get in to see him and massive traffic jams to get on the post

Obama comes and you cant even tell he was here .......
Well Bush Jr. did attract a lot of red necks and cowboys. And those fake wrestling fans. Now don't get me wrong, I actually like the man, Pres. Bush, but he was not on the ball, IMO. And he represents to me what is wrong with the current Repub Party. But I liked the "modern Republican" in the vein of Eisenhower, a breed long gone and never to be seen again.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:23 PM   #20
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Well Bush Jr. did attract a lot of red necks and cowboys. And those fake wrestling fans. Now don't get me wrong, I actually like the man, Pres. Bush, but he was not on the ball, IMO. And he represents to me what is wrong with the current Repub Party. But I liked the "modern Republican" in the vein of Eisenhower, a breed long gone and never to be seen again.
Being an Eisenhower Republican puts you slightly to the left of President Obama.
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