[Rinkeliacasse]

But it's important to take a stand against abortion, and to force the Democrats to allow more pollution.
That's why the government is being shut down.

[jerzeygymwolf]

But it's important to take a stand against abortion, and to force the Democrats to allow more pollution.
That's why the government is being shut down.

Exactly.

It's unfair to say that the President is "squabbling" with the Congress, since he agreed to their original $33 billion number.

One of the top Tea Party people was on Chris Matthews last night, and he said the Tea Pea's don't have a dog in the cultural war fight. Than why not drop the war on women, pass the fucking resolution already and then CLAIM VICTORY?!!!

Easy answer: because it's not about the budget, no matter how many times Boehner insists it is.

If this were truly about the budget and not about social conservatives having a revolution, the thing would have passed already.

I'm happy that one side believes in the EPA and that our food should be inspected before we consume it. No-fucking-brainer right there....

[Erossycuc]

But it's important to take a stand against abortion, and to force the Democrats to allow more pollution.
That's why the government is being shut down.

Why can't we have a moral government and one that isn't beholding to a political interpretation of pollution?

[Percocetti]

But it's important to take a stand against abortion, and to force the Democrats to allow more pollution.
That's why the government is being shut down.

Geeee last I remember, now who was that during the Obamacare debate, oh it was Stupac, a Democrat and other Democrats that said no way is government money going to fund abortions. And I recall Obama signing a executive order to that effect, which by the way has no authority. There are many Democrats that are totally against any funding for abortions, yet now they are no where to be seen.

Allow more pollution, oh that's right you don't want industry or jobs in this country, nor any oil drilling as you would rather us send 500 billion to other countries and all the jobs that go with it. Sure go and kill babies and send our jobs overseas.

[Percocetti]

Exactly.

It's unfair to say that the President is "squabbling" with the Congress, since he agreed to their original $33 billion number.

One of the top Tea Party people was on Chris Matthews last night, and he said the Tea Pea's don't have a dog in the cultural war fight. Than why not drop the war on women, pass the fucking resolution already and then CLAIM VICTORY?!!!

Easy answer: because it's not about the budget, no matter how many times Boehner insists it is.

If this were truly about the budget and not about social conservatives having a revolution, the thing would have passed already.

I'm happy that one side believes in the EPA and that our food should be inspected before we consume it. No-fucking-brainer right there....

The reason we don't have a budget is the Dem's do not want to cut Planned Parenthood. Simple as that. If it was about money the deal would have been agreed to a long time ago. This is all about the Dem's not wanting to cut money from Planned Parenthood.

"Schumer: Senate Will ‘Never, Never, Never’ Defund Planned Parenthood"

Schumer: Senate Will ?Never, Never, Never? Defund Planned Parenthood | CNSnews.com

[Lymneterfeiff]

They will not be cut off they'll simply have to wait for the checks.

Which is very helpful to their families at home.

[VemyhemiHef]

If the government shuts down at midnight tonight due to the utter failure of Congress to get their shit together, don't fret.

Your Representatives and Senators, along with the President and VP will continue to get paid and receive all their perks.

So don't worry - even though the peasantry will suffer from losing their paychecks, our ruling class will be just fine.

Seriously, we need to change some things in DC. For starters - if the Federal government shuts down due to one of these budget spats, all Congressional pay is forfeit. Not deferred, lost. Same for the President and VP.

Similarly, all perks are forfeit. If a Congressmember, the President or the VP are out of town - they get flown back to DC and then the travel office closes until the government re-opens. If there is no money to pay our troops, then there is no money to drive Rep. Brown and her gal pals out for their shopping junket.

If the Congress and President are going to squabble like grade school children and make the country suffer for it, then they should be treated like grade school children. Spank them, cut off their allowance, and send them to bed without supper.

Matt

I think we could save alot of money with this government shut-down. 800,000 federal workers--get an unpaid vacation. And yes you're right congress and the President shouldn't be paid either--especially democrats--who should have had this budget put together last year on October 1, 2010. It would be nice if we could retroactive their pay to back then--and they could refund it back to the treasury.

[Lymneterfeiff]

I think we could save alot of money with this government shut-down. 800,000 federal workers--get an unpaid vacation. And yes you're right congress and the President shouldn't be paid either--especially democrats--who should have had this budget put together last year on October 1, 2010. It would be nice if we could retroactive their pay to back then--and they could refund it back to the treasury.

Yeah, we should celebrate!

Soldiers' families going without paychecks! Yay!!!!

Taxpayers' refund checks being delayed! Yay!!!!


Taxpayer-owned facilities inaccessible to the taxpayer! Yay!!!!


Fucking brilliant.

[jerzeygymwolf]

The reason we don't have a budget is the Dem's do not want to cut Planned Parenthood. Simple as that. If it was about money the deal would have been agreed to a long time ago. This is all about the Dem's not wanting to cut money from Planned Parenthood.

"Schumer: Senate Will ‘Never, Never, Never’ Defund Planned Parenthood"

Schumer: Senate Will ?Never, Never, Never? Defund Planned Parenthood | CNSnews.com

No, it's about the Republican war on women, seniors and the working poor.

Way to try to reverse the argument though.

[RilmAlime67]

Exactly.

It's unfair to say that the President is "squabbling" with the Congress, since he agreed to their original $33 billion number.

Sigh.

The President most certainly was playing the same silly games as Congress:

WASHINGTON -- President Obama promised on Thursday to veto a House Republican bill that would keep the government open for one extra week and cut $12 billion in spending, while also funding the military through the remainder of the fiscal year.

Obama had dismissed the gesture in private meetings and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) called the measure a "fantasy" and a "non-starter," but Thursday's veto threat was the president's clearest signal that the House Republican stopgap is doomed.

Obama Issues Veto Threat As Government Shutdown Looms Matt

[Erossycuc]

Which is very helpful to their families at home.

I never said it didn't suck.