[ljq0AYOV]

Did you know that for the month of February alone the Federal Government is showing a deficit of 248 BILLION dollars for that 23 day period. Now while we have democrats and republicans fighting over budget cuts--democrats of course really not wanting to get serious about making any cuts. Obama has conceded to a mere (6 billion dollars) while Harry Reid only wants a 4.7 billion dollar cut and republcans want a 63 billion dollar cut--and they all are in a Mexican stand-off over this.

So my polling question to you--is "if" essential services were provided--meaning people would still get their social security checks--medicare and the military would be paid for--really how many of you would really mind if the Federal government shut down--in order to get this budget crisis fixed?

Keep in mind that the issue is to raise the debt ceiling to 14 trillion dollars so they can keep of this smoke screen that everything is O.K.--when it is not. Your children and grandchildrens futures are at stake here. If this keeps up .44 cents out of every dollar they make will go to fund the Federal Government. Interest alone on the federal debt so far--will be costing a 20 year old $120,000 in interest alone. Right now the Federal Government is borrowing .46 cents out of every dollar it spends.

Attachment 11067

Now up to 14 trillion dollars.

[Percocetti]

Did you know that for the month of February alone the Federal Government is showing a deficit of 248 BILLION dollars for that 23 day period. Now while we have democrats and republicans fighting over budget cuts--democrats of course really not wanting to get serious about making any cuts. Obama has conceded to a mere (6 billion dollars) while Harry Reid only wants a 4.7 billion dollar cut and republcans want a 63 billion dollar cut--and they all are in a Mexican stand-off over this.

So my polling question to you--is "if" essential services were provided--meaning people would still get their social security checks--medicare and the military would be paid for--really how many of you would really mind if the Federal government shut down--in order to get this budget crisis fixed?

Keep in mind that the issue is to raise the debt ceiling to 14 trillion dollars so they can keep of this smoke screen that everything is O.K.--when it is not. Your children and grandchildrens futures are at stake here. If this keeps up .44 cents out of every dollar they make will go to fund the Federal Government. Interest alone on the federal debt so far--will be costing a 20 year old $120,000 in interest alone. Right now the Federal Government is borrowing .46 cents out of every dollar it spends.

Attachment 11067

Now up to 14 trillion dollars.

Democrats badge of honor is "borrow and spend" and they are not going to give that up. They love to wear their badge of honor as it is who they are, and their proud of it. In fact Democrats what to increase entitlements as they believe there is no end to the supply of money.

[ljq0AYOV]

Democrats badge of honor is "borrow and spend" and they are not going to give that up. They love to wear their badge of honor as it is who they are, and their proud of it. In fact Democrats what to increase entitlements as they believe there is no end to the supply of money.

You didn't cast your vote in the above poll?

[Varbaiskkic]

ahoy Oreo,

may i vote "no", without the "never shut it down no matter how bad the deficit gets" part?

aye?

- MeadHallPirate

[oyymoss]

"if" essential services were provided--meaning people would still get their social security checks--medicare and the military would be paid for--

Isn't that like 70 or 80% of the budget?

There are certain things, like federally funded synchrotron centers and certain NASA projects where the cost of shutdown would exceed the cost of continuing to operate for the several weeks and months while they sort out the budget. I'm not in favor of having things cost even MORE simply because it might make some people feel better.

[Erossycuc]

We survived the last "shut down". Wasn't that during the "Clintonian Golden Age"?

[Peapeuddedbaw]

Let the m'fer burn! We have plenty of money coming into the treasury every month to fund not just critical, but constitutionaly mandated services. Everything else needs to go.

[Lymneterfeiff]

Democrats badge of honor is "borrow and spend" and they are not going to give that up. They love to wear their badge of honor as it is who they are, and their proud of it. In fact Democrats what to increase entitlements as they believe there is no end to the supply of money.

If it's the Democrats' "badge of honor" why's the deficit jump so high so fast when the Republicans are in charge?

[Rinkeliacasse]

You know the fucking whiners who keep crying that they don't want to saddle the children with debt, wouldn't look like such complete fucking hypocrites if they weren't also whining that they didn't want to pay for the things that the government is doing now or has already done for their benefit.
Seriously, if you oppose borrowing and leaving the children to pay for stuff, then support higher taxes to pay for what we are actually doing now.
Your concern for the kids is so touching, especially when you decide that cutting back on their school lunch programs and reducing the amount spent on their education is the way to reduce what they will owe.

Whining about the debt that you have racked up, and cutting the money spent on someone else, shows just how sincere you are in your "beliefs"

[Dyslermergerb]

You know the fucking whiners who keep crying that they don't want to saddle the children with debt, wouldn't look like such complete fucking hypocrites if they weren't also whining that they didn't want to pay for the things that the government is doing now or has already done for their benefit.
Seriously, if you oppose borrowing and leaving the children to pay for stuff, then support higher taxes to pay for what we are actually doing now.
Your concern for the kids is so touching, especially when you decide that cutting back on their school lunch programs and reducing the amount spent on their education is the way to reduce what they will owe.

Whining about the debt that you have racked up, and cutting the money spent on someone else, shows just how sincere you are in your "beliefs"

And what will higher taxes give you? Have you ever thought for a minute what that means to the average person?

Less money to live on. Oh I know you're just wanting to punish the rich and tax only them for being successful, but answer a question honestly for once in your life.

If you raise taxes on rich people, how will they respond?

[mikelangr]

And what will higher taxes give you? Have you ever thought for a minute what that means to the average person?

Less money to live on. Oh I know you're just wanting to punish the rich and tax only them for being successful, but answer a question honestly for once in your life.

If you raise taxes on rich people, how will they respond?

They`ll pay them and they`ll still be rich. I don`t think anyone is out to punish anybody else. It`s about dealing with reality. Americans' tax burden is lightest in developed world - USATODAY.com

[Roferurse]

Democrats badge of honor is "borrow and spend" and they are not going to give that up. They love to wear their badge of honor as it is who they are, and their proud of it. In fact Democrats what to increase entitlements as they believe there is no end to the supply of money.

This is about as hypocritical as it gets Forplay, no other way to call this one my friend.

Everyone knows the standing orders of economic policy under Republican control in recent times has been the same "borrow and spend" (call it "print and spend" or whatever you need to) that you accuse Democrats of wearing as a badge of honor. Just to add a little to the mix here you cannot ignore that under ole W there was plenty of "borrow and spend" going on all the while selling the US on the whole tax cuts will pay for itself in future taxes on economic growth. Not only did that end in epic disaster and never was realized, but we ended up with plenty of debt during their time of control. No debate on that one, the debt went up and at the time was in respectable numbers in comparison. Granted Obama is smashing those records as we speak but that does not negate all the debt damage Republicans did to us as well. Republicans are no better about economic policy and fiscal responsibility than Democrats these days. And if you really want to debate how Democrats look at the never ending supply of money you can add Republicans to the list using the same mentality under their control as there is plenty of supporting evidence.

[Dyslermergerb]

They`ll pay them and they`ll still be rich. I don`t think anyone is out to punish anybody else. It`s about dealing with reality. Americans' tax burden is lightest in developed world - USATODAY.com

So you expect them to just pay it and do nothing but pay it?

Show how much you know about the mentality of people who are successful. If they have a business, they'll pass the cost on to their employees, or the people who buy their products.

Or both. That's reality.

[vulikox]

Forplay is confused. The Democrats' mantras isn't "borrow and spend," but tax and spend. Both parties like spending, because the people like government services and reward politicians who provide them. Democrats pay for the spending. Republicans want to have their cake and eat it too.

[oyymoss]

Forplay is confused. The Democrats' mantras isn't "borrow and spend," but tax and spend. Both parties like spending, because the people like government services and reward politicians who provide them. Democrats pay for the spending. Republicans want to have their cake and eat it too.

This is why I'm far more critical of republicans than dems. Republicans are the party of cut-taxes-and-spend. The dems are the party of raise-taxes-and-spend. While both are negative, the republican strategy is the worst of the two since it ultimately digs a hole we might not be able to climb out of.

[ljq0AYOV]

Isn't that like 70 or 80% of the budget?

There are certain things, like federally funded synchrotron centers and certain NASA projects where the cost of shutdown would exceed the cost of continuing to operate for the several weeks and months while they sort out the budget. I'm not in favor of having things cost even MORE simply because it might make some people feel better.

Currently entitlements are 40% of the budget. And I am no way suggesting that Social Security and Medicare doesn't need to be addressed--it does.

But it's obvious we have morons in both houses--including the white house- that are not serious about addressing these issues--and they are continuing down a path that will financially destroy this country if they don't.

Shutting down the federal government while people on social security still get their checks may throw some water over some heads. Especially if they see that the American public really is not throwing a fit over seeing their favorite beaurocrat behind their desk--he.he.

[Rffkwfct]

If it's the Democrats' "badge of honor" why's the deficit jump so high so fast when the Republicans are in charge?

And whow much did it jump up after the dems got it back? Just sayin'

There seems to be no limit to what they can spend up on that hill. (they meaning the entire mess of 'em)

[Lymneterfeiff]

And whow much did it jump up after the dems got it back? Just sayin'

There seems to be no limit to what they can spend up on that hill. (they meaning the entire mess of 'em)

Exactly - the whole mess of 'em. It's not one side's thing - they've all been racking up the debt.

[ljq0AYOV]

Exactly - the whole mess of 'em. It's not one side's thing - they've all been racking up the debt.

Well--Finally Pram you're right. I look at as the federal government has a no limit credit card with our children and grandchildren's names written all over it for repayment.

[Cd9JfGHR]

Well let see, 35% of the Nations income comes from the Government. A little high if you ask me.