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Old 09-04-2011, 02:04 AM   #21
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We next looked to see if Walker has proposed tax cuts for corporations.

We found Walker has already signed bills that cut taxes for corporations.

Walker signed a law on Jan. 31 that says that companies that relocate to Wisconsin will not have to pay corporate taxes for two years. The law stipulates that the company must move at least 51 percent of the workers on its payroll or at least those who account for $200,000 in wages. Walker also signed into law a bill that gives small tax breaks to companies that create jobs. It’s debatable whether these could fairly be considered "giveaways," since they are intended to reward companies for creating jobs.

But Walker proposed additional tax breaks for business during the campaign for governor. PolitiFact Wisconsin documented those promises on PolitiFact’s Walk-O-Meter, a database of Walker’s campaign promises. That includes reducing taxes on employers and repealing the "combined reporting" requirement for business taxes, a measure that increased tax revenues and was approved in 2009.

"If you elect me as your next governor, I’ll get government out of the way and lower the tax burden so Wisconsin business owners and factories can create 250,000 jobs and 10,000 businesses in our state by 2015," said Walker during the campaign.

We also found that Walker told the Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce during the campaign that he supported efforts to repeal the corporate income tax. Though it’s a fine distinction, we should note that we were not able to find statements from Walker proposing a repeal, so it’s not a promise listed in the Walk-O-Meter database.

Brazile said, "The (Wisconsin) governor has proposed tax giveaways to corporations." The tax breaks he signed into law were linked to job growth, which means they were not necessarily "giveaways." But he has proposed lower taxes for all businesses. And he’s supported those tax cuts even in the face of a tight budget, saying they would lead to job growth. Because Brazile gets Walker’s basic position on business taxes right -- he wants them lower -- we rate her statement Mostly True. PolitiFact | Donna Brazile said that the Wisconsin governor proposes tax breaks for business

In an immediate budget hell and you CUT taxes. Woot. Cut taxes on the wealthy and fuck the workers. amirite?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:09 AM   #22
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This tactic was obviously illegal, otherwise they would have used it at the outset. It broke the 24-hour public meeting law in Wisconsin, and it broke the the law requiring a quorum for all budget-related bills. It'll never stand.

So the Republicans resorted to an obviously illegal tactic to push through a bill that has very little support in the state and evokes outrage in the majority of voters. They used outrageous tactics to pass their outrageous bill.
At the very best, a short-term, pyrrhic "victory."

Think it's going to come back to bite them?

Yeah, I reckon.

The American public is finally, finally waking up to what modern-day Republicans are really all about.
Yes it had to be illegal, but guess what it's going to be passed in the morning and will become law. So much for your illegal BS.

It's hell to get beat at your own game. The fact is the WI Governor was being nice trying to do it in front of everyone, he always had this avenue from day one. But he put it off until now. He's moving on. Good for him and good for the tax payer.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:12 AM   #23
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PolitiFact | Donna Brazile said that the Wisconsin governor proposes tax breaks for business

In an immediate budget hell and you CUT taxes. Woot. Cut taxes on the wealthy and fuck the workers. amirite?
Holy shit dude are you blind or what? The measures he ACTUALLY put into place do nothing but ATTRACT business to the ailing economy of WI. Those are incentives. They still have to pay other corporate taxes and most importantly HIRE WI WORKERS. You know the unemployed ones? All those guys? The ones no longer getting fucked?

He made some campaign promises. Big whoop. He's a politician. At LEAST half of those promises are total horseshit and you know it. Shall we start counting Obama's kept promises vs his made ones? Or Pelosi's or *insert any politician EVER here*? Cause that shit could go all night.
You've cited 2 decent economic moves and a politician spewing some hot air. Who's side are you on anyway?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:13 AM   #24
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Holy fuck, you aren't really saying he waited this long out of kindness? How brainwashed can you be?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:13 AM   #25
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PolitiFact | Donna Brazile said that the Wisconsin governor proposes tax breaks for business

In an immediate budget hell and you CUT taxes. Woot. Cut taxes on the wealthy and fuck the workers. amirite?
Wong, Donna Brazile is far left liberal and she did not lay out any tax cuts for any businesses, she was not specific in who got the tax cuts and for what. You still can't come up with any specifics except BS.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:14 AM   #26
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Are you in the dark or what. What tax breaks for businesses? Please explain. I want to hear this. Guess it is obvious who was in the dark now. Enjoying your new facts? Now, like I said, facing an immediate budget crisis they decided to decrease corporate revenue, and instead extorted the money from hard working, contracted, working men and women.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:19 AM   #27
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Holy fuck, you aren't really saying he waited this long out of kindness? How brainwashed can you be?
Then tell me why he waited, this option has always been available to him, he could have useed it on day one.

So how brainwashed are you. Now you tell me why he waited. But I know you have no clue, just like the tax question that you can't give specifics on. You just run around making comments you can't back up. You're beginning to really bore me.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:20 AM   #28
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We told you why he waited, it wasn't a legal option. He wants to now take his chances in the courts since he is taking a beating in the polls, already capitulated on an issue (rejected by dems, why do that if he had all the power all along? Oh nice guy, right).

Thinking he waited because he is nice is the kind of naivety I envy.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:21 AM   #29
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Guess it is obvious who was in the dark now. Enjoying your new facts? Now, like I said, facing an immediate budget crisis they decided to decrease corporate revenue, and instead extorted the money from hard working, contracted, working men and women.
All you are is BS, post facts, what businesses received the tax breaks and for what? Simple question. Facts, supported facts, specific supported facts.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:23 AM   #30
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"The bill would add $66 million to the state’s $3 billion budget shortfall over the next two years. Walker has said he will show how he will pay for his tax cuts in the budget he unveils next month. "

Wisconsin tax breaks for job creation get GOP lawmakers' OK | Green Bay Press Gazette | greenbaypressgazette.com

Yeah, I am sure he will.

see also Wisconsin’s Cheesy Tax Cuts - Lee Sheppard - Taxation & Finance - Forbes

The guy made his priorities clear, support business and fuck teachers.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:24 AM   #31
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We told you why he waited, it wasn't a legal option. He wants to now take his chances in the courts since he is taking a beating in the polls, already capitulated on an issue (rejected by dems, why do that if he had all the power all along? Oh nice guy, right).

Thinking he waited because he is nice is the kind of naivety I envy.
There you go again spewing BS without facts, you say it wasn't a legal option then, so prove it. Show me the facts, support your BS.

You are as naive as it comes, you can't support anything you spew out. Nothing, nada, give it up unless you can come to the table with supported facts.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:28 AM   #32
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Yes, because it is factually supported to state he waited cause he's a nice guy.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:34 AM   #33
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"The bill would add $66 million to the state’s $3 billion budget shortfall over the next two years. Walker has said he will show how he will pay for his tax cuts in the budget he unveils next month. "

Wisconsin tax breaks for job creation get GOP lawmakers' OK | Green Bay Press Gazette | greenbaypressgazette.com

Yeah, I am sure he will.

see also Wisconsin’s Cheesy Tax Cuts - Lee Sheppard - Taxation & Finance - Forbes

The guy made his priorities clear, support business and fuck teachers.
Wisconsin tax breaks for job creation, jobs, jobs, jobs something you liberals could care less about. You never care about jobs. So here the Governor is creating jobs and you bitch that he is doing so. And you want to talk about those teachers that have a job and throw the guy that is out of work under the bus. You liberals really don't get it, never have never will. Now your all up and pissed the Governor wants to create jobs to help out of work people. But you could give a shit about the unemployed all you care about is that overpaid teacher. You could never understand that maybe taking away from an overpaid teacher and maybe that savings could go to create a job for someone out of work. No you would never agree to do that.

I have always said and it has come true repeatedly, you liberals could care less about American jobs. You don't give a shit how many people are out of work.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:37 AM   #34
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[quote]Yes, because it is factually supported to state he waited cause he's a nice guy.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:37 AM   #35
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Actually, what we are discussing is if there were tax breaks to businesses or not, not his reasoning for giving the tax breaks. We can discuss the merit of business vs teacher, but the FACT, that you wasted so much time on, is that he has, and openly is a proponent of, cutting taxes on corporations while there is an immediate budget problem.

If you want to argue if it is a good idea or not, business vs teacher, we can do that.

How are these facts tasting for you?
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:38 AM   #36
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If you think this is over, you're living in dreamland. Two steps follow. First, follow through with the recall move. Second, challenge the law in court.

It's also an issue on a nationwide level. Backlash city, here we come. Republicans in Wisconsin just committed political suicide. What remains to be seen is if the national GOP will join them, but even if they don't this whole situation has energized the left big time. This is exactly what was needed. Now comes the fire.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:39 AM   #37
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Will he had the option all along and he did not use it until now, why did he do this?

I know you can't answer because you don't have a clue.
But you can throw out, even claiming it as fact, the statement that he did it cause he's a nice guy.

If you can make an apeshit crazy claim like that (attributing it as fact) I'm not going to feel too bad making an educated guess based on the fact that his poll numbers went to hell, he PROPOSED a compromise to the democrats and the TIME it has taken.

Still beats the hell out of making a factual assertion that he did it cause he's nice lol. I mean, at least back your ridiculous factual statements with substance before criticizing others.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:40 AM   #38
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If you think this is over, you're living in dreamland. Two steps follow. First, follow through with the recall move. Second, challenge the law in court.

It's also an issue on a nationwide level. Backlash city, here we come. Republicans in Wisconsin just committed political suicide. What remains to be seen is if the national GOP will join them, but even if they don't this whole situation has energized the left big time. This is exactly what was needed. Now comes the fire.
I hope so! The conservative propaganda in this country is out of control, but I have so much hope right now.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:46 AM   #39
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I hope so! The conservative propaganda in this country is out of control, but I have so much hope right now.
The recall petition is going well. This move probably is illegal which leaves the bill open to court challenge. It can't do a whole lot of harm if it's only in force for a short time before being repealed or struck down.

Don't overestimate "conservative propaganda." It's not as powerful as you think.
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:49 AM   #40
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I have faith that fox news would debunk the claim if it was b.s.
A true believer. God, they're so precious.
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