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Abnorttrano 03-17-2011 03:12 PM

Food prices soar and yet Obama says we are doing better.
 
Wholesale prices up 1.6 pct. on steep rise in food - Yahoo! Finance

This is the true gauge on how fucked up the economy is. The largest increase in 36 years of food prices. So not only is it more expensive to get to work cause of fuel ( Which Obama wants to "Necessarily skyrocket" ) The money we make is now feeding our kids less.

Progressive want you to believe things are looking good but every time you go to buy a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread you see the lie. It is getting to the point that we will have to choose between rent or dinner.

JimmyHas 03-17-2011 03:20 PM

You're missing the whole point....if the dollar inflates to the point where it costs $4,765.00 for a loaf of bread then our $14 Trillion debt looks minuscule!

Abnorttrano 03-17-2011 03:26 PM

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You're missing the whole point....if the dollar inflates to the point where it costs $4,765.00 for a loaf of bread then our $14 Trillion debt looks minuscule!
This issue should be pointed out to all those poor and union members that voted for Obama. This is the change they voted for. More hunger.

Jackson 03-17-2011 03:39 PM

I may be reading this incorrectly, but it seems the increase in food prices has zero to do with the economy and much to do with a rough winter resulting in more bad crops than usual. The US isn't the only country affected by this.

Abnorttrano 03-17-2011 03:43 PM

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I may be reading this incorrectly, but it seems the increase in food prices has zero to do with the economy and much to do with a rough winter resulting in more bad crops than usual. The US isn't the only country affected by this.
Since when do we need food in other countries? Answer is we dont. So that excuse is bullshit.

Jackson 03-17-2011 03:55 PM

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Since when do we need food in other countries? Answer is we dont. So that excuse is bullshit.
...what? Seriously, I don't understand what you're saying.

EDIT: I was pointing out that this issue isn't unique to the United States, many other countries had rough winters and are also seeing increases in food prices because of a smaller output of crops. On top of that, the rise of oil prices is also factored into the prices of food, another thing that the United States doesn't have a ton of control over and another thing that other countries are feeling the brunt of, too. You started off your post saying this was an indicator of how bad our economy is doing, when it has little to do with the US economy.

Abnorttrano 03-17-2011 04:01 PM

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...what? Seriously, I don't understand what you're saying.
Our food prices do not go up cause Africa didn't grow wheat.

Jackson 03-17-2011 04:05 PM

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Our food prices do not go up cause Africa didn't grow wheat.
I know, I didn't say that. Our crops were much less because of a rough winter, so our prices will reflect that. Other countries, say Russia for example, also had harsh winters and they, too, have increased food costs as a result. You were trying to make this a sign of the US economy being bad, when that isn't the case, it's an international issue that many other countries are dealing with, too. If it was specific to the US economy, we would be the only ones dealing with this, but that isn't the case. It's a result of a low output of crops on top of higher oil prices, two things that aren't a reflection of our economy doing well or not and two things that the Obama administration doesn't have much control over.

If we have a much smaller number of crops to put on the market, then those crops will be in higher demand and the price will reflect that, regardless of how well the economy is doing.

Gedominew 03-17-2011 04:33 PM

Well, we also buy food from around the world - Americans have to have their asparagus in December and their strawberries in February. All of that contributes to higher prices when crops are struggling globally because of severe weather.

Lidawka 03-17-2011 04:39 PM

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Since when do we need food in other countries? Answer is we dont. So that excuse is bullshit.
What is bullshit, is that it's obvious that you haven't done any shopping in the grocery store for food. Before posting about things you do not know, take a look in any grocery store at the fresh veggies. They all have labels from where they came.

Lidawka 03-17-2011 04:42 PM

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Our food prices do not go up cause Africa didn't grow wheat.
Wrong! Again! Food prices go up worldwide when there is crop failure anywhere. Check into the free market system, you'll understand why.

Abnorttrano 03-18-2011 02:03 AM

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Wrong! Again! Food prices go up worldwide when there is crop failure anywhere. Check into the free market system, you'll understand why.
Hey maybe if you knew what America produced you wouldn't be talking out of your ass.

Abnorttrano 03-18-2011 02:04 AM

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I know, I didn't say that. Our crops were much less because of a rough winter, so our prices will reflect that. Other countries, say Russia for example, also had harsh winters and they, too, have increased food costs as a result. You were trying to make this a sign of the US economy being bad, when that isn't the case, it's an international issue that many other countries are dealing with, too. If it was specific to the US economy, we would be the only ones dealing with this, but that isn't the case. It's a result of a low output of crops on top of higher oil prices, two things that aren't a reflection of our economy doing well or not and two things that the Obama administration doesn't have much control over.

If we have a much smaller number of crops to put on the market, then those crops will be in higher demand and the price will reflect that, regardless of how well the economy is doing.
The article pointed out the winters in other countries not ours.....While I am sure some things got screwed this winter ( you know with all this global warming and all) Food prices have been on the rise for awhile. It is a sign of how weak the dollar is becoming.

illetrygrargo 03-18-2011 02:08 AM

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Wholesale prices up 1.6 pct. on steep rise in food - Yahoo! Finance

This is the true gauge on how fucked up the economy is. The largest increase in 36 years of food prices. So not only is it more expensive to get to work cause of fuel ( Which Obama wants to "Necessarily skyrocket" ) The money we make is now feeding our kids less.

Progressive want you to believe things are looking good but every time you go to buy a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread you see the lie. It is getting to the point that we will have to choose between rent or dinner.
Your desire to blame Obama for anything is obvious to most here. You're not interested in fair-minded dialogue at all.

Oh, and I LOVE the part where you throw in "our kids", like you would EVER give Obama credit for being concerned about "our kids", while you'll swear to the bitter end that you DO care about "our kids" and that's why you make a career out of attacking Obama.

Get over yourself, get into being part of solving problems, instead of being the problem.

Abnorttrano 03-18-2011 02:11 AM

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Your desire to blame Obama for anything is obvious to most here. You're not interested in fair-minded dialogue at all.

Oh, and I LOVE the part where you throw in "our kids", like you would EVER give Obama credit for being concerned about "our kids", while you'll swear to the bitter end that you DO care about "our kids" and that's why you make a career out of attacking Obama.

Get over yourself, get into being part of solving problems, instead of being the problem.
Hey guess what? Obama is president. It was bad polocy from men like him that caused this and that also includes him. He is responsible as well as the next guy that follows him.....Thats the job.

illetrygrargo 03-18-2011 02:19 AM

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Hey guess what? Obama is president. It was bad polocy from men like him that caused this and that also includes him. He is responsible as well as the next guy that follows him.....Thats the job.
Lame, personal responsibility-avoiding, and no sooner do you act like you're objective, than you'll start attacking the same way you have been.

Abnorttrano 03-18-2011 02:24 AM

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Lame, personal responsibility-avoiding, and no sooner do you act like you're objective, than you'll start attacking the same way you have been.
Excuse me? I have no way to influence taxes or regulation other than voting. So this does not fall on me.

infelconi 03-18-2011 02:38 AM

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Hey guess what? Obama is president.
President, yes, but I don't recall him being elected God.

Abnorttrano 03-18-2011 02:40 AM

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President, yes, but I don't recall him being elected God.
that would depend on which side of MSNBC your on wouldn't it? If what you say is true that Obama cant get any blame then he gets no praise when things go good right?

infelconi 03-18-2011 02:45 AM

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that would depend on which side of MSNBC your on wouldn't it? If what you say is true that Obama cant get any blame then he gets no praise when things go good right?
The point is that for those of us who live in the real world instead of some sort of paranoid nightmare fantasyland, the president's powers are limited. Great, to be sure, but he is not omnipotent. He cannot control the weather. He cannot ensure a good harvest. He is not God.

I never watch television. I couldn't care less what anyone on MSNBC or Fox or any other TV channel says. I'm participating on this board, and so are you, and at the moment -- since I'm engaging you in conversation -- I care what you say. You and nobody else. Not MSNBC. Not anyone. And YOU are implying that President Obama is omnipotent and can ensure a bountiful harvest purely by willpower. Certainly not by presidential authority, since he has none applicable to the situation, for good or ill.

Because unless he is omnipotent and has (and has misused) God-like powers, this entire thread is an exercise in sheer absurdity.


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