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Old 09-02-2012, 09:28 PM   #1
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Default "REAL Communism has never been tried!"
I hear liberals say this a lot.

Please explain why it has never been tried.. What it would take to implement this "real" Communism and how it would differ enough from past examples of Communism to remain viable..

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Old 09-02-2012, 09:31 PM   #2
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I caught an article about that a few days ago.

The writer was saying that RUSSIA failed.......not communism. And if the role was reversed (IE: Communism here in the US, and Capitalism in the USSR), the results would have been the same, the soviets would have failed.

I'll look for that link.

It was the same claim though......."OMG, communism HAS to work, it can't FAIL.......ignore where it has failed, because they didn't do it right! They lacked the american spirit to succeed!!"
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:31 PM   #3
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They are pissed because there freak hippie culture never took off.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:31 PM   #4
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LOL

"Real" communism, as described by the Jew Marx, is being tried every time an established societal norm is attacked.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #5
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They are pissed because there freak hippie culture never took off.
Basic human nature is an obstacle to successful communism in any form, imo.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:33 PM   #6
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LOL

"Real" communism, as described by the Jew Marx, is being tried every time an established societal norm is attacked.
Yeah, I can see the Marxist theory at work.. But we're failing as a result, and this "Real" communism hasn't yet come about.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:34 PM   #7
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Can one of you uber-enlightened libs explain this to me?

I'm afraid I don't understand..
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:34 PM   #8
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Basic human nature is an obstacle to successful communism in any form, imo.
The reasone the freaks gave up and started pushing other BS.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:35 PM   #9
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The reasone the freaks gave up and started pushing other BS.
Not true. It's still the same BS, and they've been highly successful at it.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:37 PM   #10
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Not true. It's still the same BS, and they've been highly successful at it.
Your right maybe they did not give it up.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:38 PM   #11
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http://progressingamerica.blogspot.c...asnt-been.html

Here's one.

Basically if I'm grasping them correctly........

They're saying that
1) Marx wanted communism to be adopted by an INDUSTRIALIZED society, with democratic institutions......and said that's the ONLY way it can be done.
2) all the countries that have 'tried' communism have lacked one or both of those primary requirements.......thus it's not a valid test
3) Eliminating the government is also required.....and other nations didn't do that.

Thus.... communism hasn't been 'tried' the way it was meant to be..........

I mean it WOULD work....if only it was done correctly.

Or some such shit.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:40 PM   #12
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3) Eliminating the government is also required.....and other nations didn't do that.
Before you point at N. Korea........they covered that. They didn't 'eliminate' the government.....they formed it into authority dominated. It's somehow a difference.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:41 PM   #13
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its been tried. as much as it can be until the seems burst on the dam thats called society.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:41 PM   #14
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We're headed for a planned economy and someone like me will be incharge.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:43 PM   #15
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http://progressingamerica.blogspot.c...asnt-been.html

Here's one.

Basically if I'm grasping them correctly........

They're saying that
1) Marx wanted communism to be adopted by an INDUSTRIALIZED society, with democratic institutions......and said that's the ONLY way it can be done.
2) all the countries that have 'tried' communism have lacked one or both of those primary requirements.......thus it's not a valid test
3) Eliminating the government is also required.....and other nations didn't do that.

Thus.... communism hasn't been 'tried' the way it was meant to be..........

I mean it WOULD work....if only it was done correctly.

Or some such shit.
Just as I said in another thread...they're pushing communism so they come up with this bullshit.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:44 PM   #16
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Before you point at N. Korea........they covered that. They didn't 'eliminate' the government.....they formed it into authority dominated. It's somehow a difference.
I believe what they're talking about is anarcho-communism.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:44 PM   #17
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you oughtta smear some ointment on your two skeeter bites there girly.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:49 PM   #18
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http://libcom.org/thought/anarchist-...n-introduction

I'll butt out of your thread now.....^^^anarcho-communism
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:50 PM   #19
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http://libcom.org/thought/anarchist-...n-introduction

I'll butt out of your thread now.....^^^anarcho-communism
It's an open thread.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:59 PM   #20
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PURE communism keeps everyone on the same "level,"
where no one holds power over anyone else,
and everyone is a VITAL part of the whole.

EVERYONE works, to the best of his/her ability, to supply the best products for the needs of ALL,

not because of laws and rules and regulations,

but because it's in the best interest of the entire society.

Because there is only so much a person can truly NEED ~
air to breathe,
water to drink,
food to eat,
shelter/housing,
clothing,
etc. ~
those Basic Needs are the top priority,

with the "luxury" needs readily available, as it becomes practical to offer them.

As an example: clothing.
You need basic COVERING, but we all want comfort, style and some beauty about them.


Anyway, I think I've heard it compared to an ant colony or a bee hive ...
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