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Paul Bunyan 08-07-2012 06:56 PM

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It's both.

I prefer to read a book, on paper, by the soft light of an incandescent lightbulb. Call me a caveman...

I used to say the same thing till I actually saw an ebook IRL. Not to belabor the issue, but an e book doesn't have a backlit screen like a laptop. The screen is a unique material that looks just like ink on paper-you can see it just fine outdoors, too... and you need a light to read it in low light just the same as a paper book.

expabsPapsgag 08-07-2012 07:22 PM

http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/d...nstitution.php
Toward a Marxist Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution

His views sound a lot like those expressed ^^here.

broksaksaak 08-07-2012 07:45 PM

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http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/d...nstitution.php
Toward a Marxist Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution

His views sound a lot like those expressed ^^here.
Taken at face value, the Constitution is an attempt to fix the relations between state and federal governments, and between the three branches—legislative, executive, and judiciary—of the latter. WRONG. The Constitution is a guideline for relations between government and the individual. By dividing federal government powers to keep eachother in check.
Marxists always presuppose that government has preeminence over the individual when in fact the opposite is why America was envisioned in the first place.
Ergo there cannot be a marxist interpretation of the Constitution -marxism and Constitutionalism are polar opposites.

A generation ago this was common knowledge to all Americans. Nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find any kid who even knows what America is about or why it exists.

seawolferr 08-07-2012 08:02 PM

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WRONG. The Constitution is a guideline for relations between government and the individual. By dividing federal government powers to keep eachother in check.
Marxists always presuppose that government has preeminence over the individual when in fact the opposite is why America was envisioned in the first place.
Ergo there cannot be a marxist interpretation of the Constitution -marxism and Constitutionalism are polar opposites.

A generation ago this was common knowledge to all Americans. Nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find any kid who even knows what America is about or why it exists.
I didn't say the they were correct, I just pointed out that Gore Vidal is in fact a Marxist.....

irrelaAnnekly 08-07-2012 08:04 PM

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I didn't say the they were correct, I just pointed out that Gore Vidal is in fact a Marxist.....
I know..I just went off on a tangent when I started reading that idiot's blog. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.jpg

Yfclciak 08-07-2012 08:04 PM

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I know..I just went off on a tangent. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...lies/smile.jpg
It's ok, rant on. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...milies/lol.gif

sasaderesada 08-07-2012 08:05 PM

And you're 100% correct

Klorissana 08-07-2012 09:36 PM

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I used to say the same thing till I actually saw an ebook IRL. Not to belabor the issue, but an e book doesn't have a backlit screen like a laptop. The screen is a unique material that looks just like ink on paper-you can see it just fine outdoors, too... and you need a light to read it in low light just the same as a paper book.
also nice to be able to carry 'round an entire library in your back pocket.

inownsuipsy 08-07-2012 11:49 PM

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I used to say the same thing till I actually saw an ebook IRL. Not to belabor the issue, but an e book doesn't have a backlit screen like a laptop. The screen is a unique material that looks just like ink on paper-you can see it just fine outdoors, too... and you need a light to read it in low light just the same as a paper book.
I know, I've seen them. I'm just not ready yet.

I mean, what a dull bookcase that is...

freeringtonesioo 08-07-2012 11:55 PM

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I didn't say the they were correct, I just pointed out that Gore Vidal is in fact a Marxist.....
"Was" would be more accurate.

But, how so?

Lapsiks 08-07-2012 11:56 PM

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WRONG. The Constitution is a guideline for relations between government and the individual. By dividing federal government powers to keep eachother in check.
Marxists always presuppose that government has preeminence over the individual when in fact the opposite is why America was envisioned in the first place.
Ergo there cannot be a marxist interpretation of the Constitution -marxism and Constitutionalism are polar opposites.

A generation ago this was common knowledge to all Americans. Nowadays you'd be hard pressed to find any kid who even knows what America is about or why it exists.

You could have a "Marxist Constitution" drafted in some nation. So Marxism and Constitutionalism are not polar opposites. They're apples and oranges.

You could say, of course, that Marxism and American Constitutionalism are polar opposites, and that's probably what you meant...

Paladin 08-07-2012 11:59 PM

I have "Lincoln" and "Burr" by Gore Vidal.. A gift from my parents.

Fausqueuego 08-07-2012 11:59 PM

Haven't opened them yet.

poispanna 08-07-2012 11:59 PM

been busy.

heennaRaf 08-08-2012 12:07 AM

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"Was" would be more accurate.

But, how so?

How so what? How was Gore Vidal a Marxist?

JJascaxal 08-08-2012 12:19 AM

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How so what? How was Gore Vidal a Marxist?

Yeah. The article you linked was by someone else, but if I read you correctly, you were saying that Vidal felt the same way?

Maybe I read it wrong?

Indoendris 08-08-2012 01:34 AM

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http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
http://youtu.be/lpPeQyT36Tg
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HE NEVER TAXED ME.

WFSdZuP3 08-08-2012 01:35 AM

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HE NEVER TAXED ME.
Nor did I, Homeboy.

SawbasyWrab 08-08-2012 01:39 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/2w3cn6e.jpg

http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
http://youtu.be/lpPeQyT36Tg
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WRITE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE.

fameintatenly 08-08-2012 01:39 AM

http://i42.tinypic.com/2w3cn6e.jpg

http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
http://youtu.be/lpPeQyT36Tg
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MAYBE WE COULD, LIKE, START A COUNTRY OR SOMPIN'....


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