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**fapourfasiark** · 07-19-2012, 11:09 PM

Look, what's a trillion here and there...........

ok

**OwdBKKHO** · 07-20-2012, 12:02 AM

I am just trying to force you and a few others to THINK. I know its irritating and frustrating, but it seems like the only way to get you off of your mindset. The way you are thinking is counterproductive to fixing our mutual problems, which are very very serious.

I feel like I have to irritate you guys to make you think. Sorry if it offends you. But I have very strong feelings about what is happening to our country.

You're a drive-by conservative. A tabloid conservative.

A groupie.

You haven't done anything to make people see, much less respect, any degree of intelligence, insight, or philosophical aptitude.

That's on you. If you "have it", like you claim to, why don't we witness it?

Intelligent folks always have new ideas. Dummies repeat themselves, and the words of others.

**glasscollector** · 07-20-2012, 12:57 AM

HAHAHAHHAHA.. If it were only that easy!

but but but..............RONALD REAGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

There, that should solve all the problems.

**DEMassteers** · 07-20-2012, 12:58 AM

Broken Windows..

Exactly!

A good war, just makes us all richer!

Well.......I mean it should........in theory.

**Riprincattiva** · 07-20-2012, 01:01 AM

I had a thread comparing real conservatives, to RR groupies.......

**P3bWjm1j** · 07-20-2012, 02:34 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

WAR?

HMM.... IRAN..... YAAAS....

GOT TO GET THE STAFF BUSY ON STEERING CONTRACTS TO THE DISTRICT...

WORK WITH FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE....

GO ON ANDERSON COOPER AND PULL A LONG FACE....

OH YEAH, WAR IS AWFUL!

**BinasiDombrs** · 07-20-2012, 04:19 AM

That's a really good read, and seems like doing the impossible. We'd have to divide this country into three territories to succeed in bringing Conservatism back to those terms. Especially on a political level.

The Republican party will never cease and desist of it's ownership of Conservatism.

**eropiereetuekm** · 07-20-2012, 04:20 AM

That's a really good read, and seems like doing the impossible. We'd have to divide this country into three territories to succeed in bringing Conservatism back to those terms. Especially on a political level.

The Republican party will never cease and desist of it's ownership of Conservatism.

They very nearly destroyed it..

**drugimpotence** · 07-20-2012, 04:21 AM

IMO.

**arindiruppya** · 07-20-2012, 04:24 AM

They very nearly destroyed it..

It's true, and Conservatives have become too complacent. We're okay picking the guy that can win, vs. the guy that can represent, lead, set the example etc.

**Kt-viagra** · 07-20-2012, 04:32 AM

It's true, and Conservatives have become too complacent. We're okay picking the guy that can win, vs. the guy that can represent, lead, set the example etc.

I understand picking the guy that can win.. and I think

will win.. But it's really about much more than

or the Republicans.

The Republican party can weather any political storm... Conservatism cannot.

It's an ideology.. As a school of thought, it can be destroyed and discarded without regard for the Republican party in any way whatsoever.

It has to be about more than zero accountability, war and tax cuts we haven't paid for in terms of reduced spending and a reduced federal footprint... Because people will reject that.

It's not long enough in the tooth to withstand the test of time.. It will be discredited at whatever point it's associated generally with partisan, republican hijinks..

They're right about Reagan and the Conservatism of the era.. It was shaped by the cold war.. It's a different time, the challenges are different and I think they have a much more sustainable path for conservatism than, say.. endless re-runs of the Bush years.. Or even the Reagan years.

But that's just me..

**GlictStiply** · 07-20-2012, 04:36 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED.

**dupratac** · 07-20-2012, 04:37 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED.

Yes, they did.. And Americans should have had a sizable peace dividend to enjoy.

The USSR was unlike anything we ever faced.. Their collapse should have heralded in a few years of pixie dust and titties.

**everlastinge** · 07-20-2012, 04:39 AM

Remember, the Republicans spent nearly half a century in the cold.. That's how insular and tone deaf they can be..

**RildFiemodo** · 07-20-2012, 04:50 AM

I understand picking the guy that can win.. and I think will win.. But it's really about much more than or the Republicans.

The Republican party can weather any political storm... Conservatism cannot.

It's an ideology.. As a school of thought, it can be destroyed and discarded without regard for the Republican party in any way whatsoever.

It has to be about more than zero accountability, war and tax cuts we haven't paid for in terms of reduced spending and a reduced federal footprint... Because people will reject that.

It's not long enough in the tooth to withstand the test of time.. It will be discredited at whatever point it's associated generally with partisan, republican hijinks..

They're right about Reagan and the Conservatism of the era.. It was shaped by the cold war.. It's a different time, the challenges are different and I think they have a much more sustainable path for conservatism than, say.. endless re-runs of the Bush years.. Or even the Reagan years.

But that's just me..

You know, initially, it will be rejected as some type of cult. lol People believe that Republicans and Conservatism are synonymous. You'll have too many Rubs jumping ship, screaming they're all in, they're Conservatives. But still, they will demand more of the same, from many of the same tired players. It took 60+ years to destroy it, and it could take just as many to breathe life back into it, by weeding out the BS. It has to start today, with us, our children, then their children.

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED.

American's will have to take credit for these buttplugs, Klein. We can fire them, and we do, but we keep electing more of the same. We're not replacing them with statesmen, that are willing to be just that. Statesmen that act and behave as civil servants to America.

We keep electing these merry-men of do nothings.

**Hamucevasiop** · 07-20-2012, 05:04 AM

Conservatism is a complex series of complimentary governmental, social and economic principles..

Trying to excise the Bush brand of "conservatism" from that will just lead to failure.. How many foreign wars do you want? How much can your grand kids afford to pay because you refuse? How big can the police state get?

Which really sort of summarizes Bush's 8 years of "conservative" leadership.

It's just not sustainable.

It's almost a permanent war footing.

**NikolaAAA** · 07-20-2012, 05:11 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

THE HUNDRED-YEAR REICH, WASN'T IT?

**tipokotap** · 07-20-2012, 05:12 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I GUESS THEY WANT TO BRING THE ISRAEL MODEL TO AMERICA...

**YabbaIn** · 07-20-2012, 05:13 AM

http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg
http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OKAY, TOOTS, STEP THIS WAY... THAT MAY BE SILICONE...

OR IT MAY BE GELIGNITE!

**estelle** · 07-20-2012, 05:13 AM

OH MY GOD!!!!!

TIT-BOMBS!!!!!!!!

.

07-19-2012, 11:09 PM	#21
fapourfasiark Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 386 Senior Member	Look, what's a trillion here and there........... ok Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 12:02 AM	#22
OwdBKKHO Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	I am just trying to force you and a few others to THINK. I know its irritating and frustrating, but it seems like the only way to get you off of your mindset. The way you are thinking is counterproductive to fixing our mutual problems, which are very very serious. I feel like I have to irritate you guys to make you think. Sorry if it offends you. But I have very strong feelings about what is happening to our country. You're a drive-by conservative. A tabloid conservative. A groupie. You haven't done anything to make people see, much less respect, any degree of intelligence, insight, or philosophical aptitude. That's on you. If you "have it", like you claim to, why don't we witness it? Intelligent folks always have new ideas. Dummies repeat themselves, and the words of others. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 12:57 AM	#23
glasscollector Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 525 Senior Member	HAHAHAHHAHA.. If it were only that easy! but but but..............RONALD REAGAN!!!!!!!!!!!! There, that should solve all the problems. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DEMassteers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Broken Windows.. Exactly! A good war, just makes us all richer! Well.......I mean it should........in theory. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 02:34 AM	#26
P3bWjm1j Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WAR? HMM.... IRAN..... YAAAS.... GOT TO GET THE STAFF BUSY ON STEERING CONTRACTS TO THE DISTRICT... WORK WITH FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE.... GO ON ANDERSON COOPER AND PULL A LONG FACE.... OH YEAH, WAR IS AWFUL! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:19 AM	#27
BinasiDombrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 619 Senior Member	That's a really good read, and seems like doing the impossible. We'd have to divide this country into three territories to succeed in bringing Conservatism back to those terms. Especially on a political level. The Republican party will never cease and desist of it's ownership of Conservatism. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:20 AM	#28
eropiereetuekm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	That's a really good read, and seems like doing the impossible. We'd have to divide this country into three territories to succeed in bringing Conservatism back to those terms. Especially on a political level. The Republican party will never cease and desist of it's ownership of Conservatism. They very nearly destroyed it.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:21 AM	#29
drugimpotence Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	IMO. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:24 AM	#30
arindiruppya Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 576 Senior Member	They very nearly destroyed it.. It's true, and Conservatives have become too complacent. We're okay picking the guy that can win, vs. the guy that can represent, lead, set the example etc. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:32 AM	#31
Kt-viagra Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	It's true, and Conservatives have become too complacent. We're okay picking the guy that can win, vs. the guy that can represent, lead, set the example etc. I understand picking the guy that can win.. and I think will win.. But it's really about much more than or the Republicans. The Republican party can weather any political storm... Conservatism cannot. It's an ideology.. As a school of thought, it can be destroyed and discarded without regard for the Republican party in any way whatsoever. It has to be about more than zero accountability, war and tax cuts we haven't paid for in terms of reduced spending and a reduced federal footprint... Because people will reject that. It's not long enough in the tooth to withstand the test of time.. It will be discredited at whatever point it's associated generally with partisan, republican hijinks.. They're right about Reagan and the Conservatism of the era.. It was shaped by the cold war.. It's a different time, the challenges are different and I think they have a much more sustainable path for conservatism than, say.. endless re-runs of the Bush years.. Or even the Reagan years. But that's just me.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:36 AM	#32
GlictStiply Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:37 AM	#33
dupratac Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 347 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED. Yes, they did.. And Americans should have had a sizable peace dividend to enjoy. The USSR was unlike anything we ever faced.. Their collapse should have heralded in a few years of pixie dust and titties. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
	Quote

07-20-2012, 04:39 AM	#34
everlastinge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	Remember, the Republicans spent nearly half a century in the cold.. That's how insular and tone deaf they can be.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 04:50 AM	#35
RildFiemodo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	I understand picking the guy that can win.. and I think will win.. But it's really about much more than or the Republicans. The Republican party can weather any political storm... Conservatism cannot. It's an ideology.. As a school of thought, it can be destroyed and discarded without regard for the Republican party in any way whatsoever. It has to be about more than zero accountability, war and tax cuts we haven't paid for in terms of reduced spending and a reduced federal footprint... Because people will reject that. It's not long enough in the tooth to withstand the test of time.. It will be discredited at whatever point it's associated generally with partisan, republican hijinks.. They're right about Reagan and the Conservatism of the era.. It was shaped by the cold war.. It's a different time, the challenges are different and I think they have a much more sustainable path for conservatism than, say.. endless re-runs of the Bush years.. Or even the Reagan years. But that's just me.. You know, initially, it will be rejected as some type of cult. lol People believe that Republicans and Conservatism are synonymous. You'll have too many Rubs jumping ship, screaming they're all in, they're Conservatives. But still, they will demand more of the same, from many of the same tired players. It took 60+ years to destroy it, and it could take just as many to breathe life back into it, by weeding out the BS. It has to start today, with us, our children, then their children. http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CONGRESS STOLE THE PEACE DIVIDEND, SO-CALLED. American's will have to take credit for these buttplugs, Klein. We can fire them, and we do, but we keep electing more of the same. We're not replacing them with statesmen, that are willing to be just that. Statesmen that act and behave as civil servants to America. We keep electing these merry-men of do nothings. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 05:04 AM	#36
Hamucevasiop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 575 Senior Member	Conservatism is a complex series of complimentary governmental, social and economic principles.. Trying to excise the Bush brand of "conservatism" from that will just lead to failure.. How many foreign wars do you want? How much can your grand kids afford to pay because you refuse? How big can the police state get? Which really sort of summarizes Bush's 8 years of "conservative" leadership. It's just not sustainable. It's almost a permanent war footing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 05:11 AM	#37
NikolaAAA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE HUNDRED-YEAR REICH, WASN'T IT? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 05:12 AM	#38
tipokotap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 735 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I GUESS THEY WANT TO BRING THE ISRAEL MODEL TO AMERICA... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 05:13 AM	#39
YabbaIn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/otVSSz2aydg http://youtu.be/JkXFFOOs_3g ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OKAY, TOOTS, STEP THIS WAY... THAT MAY BE SILICONE... OR IT MAY BE GELIGNITE! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-20-2012, 05:13 AM	#40
estelle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	OH MY GOD!!!!! TIT-BOMBS!!!!!!!! . Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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