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Old 03-18-2012, 08:44 PM   #1
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Default How long do you think nObama can get away with lying about his impact on gas prices?
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...n-gas-prices/1


I don't think Axelrod has any particular appeal to voters. So his lies won't easily be dismissed. And with any luck, the idiot GOP will hammer this issue until they are blue in the face.

Then there's this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...sight-at-pump/

Gasoline not profitable?? Hmm. I suspect tougher EPA standards are partially to blame here too.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:50 PM   #2
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Under new Exec order maybe he can seize and redistribute it for free
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:54 PM   #3
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When Bush was president the democrats blamed him for higher prices at the pump convinced that Bush could do something to lower the price of gas.

Now that Obumbler is president the democrats state he is not to blame for higher prices at the pump and try to convince the electorate that OShitSomeoneVotedNigger cannot do anything to lower the price of gas market forces beyond its control are involved.

The idiot in the white house went so far as to state increased domestic production will have no effect on price, while encouraging Saudi Arabia and Brasil to produce more oil. So drilling here and drilling now won't have any effect but drilling in Saudi Arabia and Brasil will. Damn I needz to gets meez one o dem dar eyebee leeg edjakatans so as I can unstand dat. Because common sense tells me that if increased production in other parts of the world will lower prices, increased production here will also.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:54 PM   #4
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As long as the mainstream media keep the people convinced it's not him but rather outside forces he has no control over.

Now I see the latest propaganda is to convince the people that high gas prices are good for them.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:56 PM   #5
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As long as the mainstream media keep the people convinced it's not him but rather outside forces he has no control over.

Now I see the latest propaganda is to convince the people that high gas prices are good for them.
Yes they are. It gives people something to spend their payroll tax cut savings on.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:13 PM   #6
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Barry just follows orders and says what he's told.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:37 PM   #7
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Alcohol is no substitute for gasoline. Not even close. This ain't 1913.
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:43 PM   #8
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When Bush was president the democrats blamed him for higher prices at the pump convinced that Bush could do something to lower the price of gas.

Now that Obumbler is president the democrats state he is not to blame for higher prices at the pump and try to convince the electorate that OShitSomeoneVotedNigger cannot do anything to lower the price of gas market forces beyond its control are involved.

The idiot in the white house went so far as to state increased domestic production will have no effect on price, while encouraging Saudi Arabia and Brasil to produce more oil. So drilling here and drilling now won't have any effect but drilling in Saudi Arabia and Brasil will. Damn I needz to gets meez one o dem dar eyebee leeg edjakatans so as I can unstand dat. Because common sense tells me that if increased production in other parts of the world will lower prices, increased production here will also.
How much could we add to supply by drilling more in the USA? Could we move world supply by 1%? 5%?

Remember, American oil is more expensive to drill for than Saudi oil, as well...
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:00 PM   #9
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How much could we add to supply by drilling more in the USA? Could we move world supply by 1%? 5%?

Remember, American oil is more expensive to drill for than Saudi oil, as well...
Maybe the unions would take a pay cut to ease the expense.

We could move the world supply by over 5%.

What's next the standard line about it will take ten years. Well if we would have started 4 years ago when the democrats used that line on a regular basis we'd be that much closer, wouldn't we.

If Obama gave a fuck he would have approved the Keystone pipeline and created jobs, instead of jerking off while taking it up the ass from the extreme left.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:08 PM   #10
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It's obama's stated objective to 'reduce dependence on foreign oil'. That means domestic oil too. In favor of imaginary cars and fields of pretty pinwheels and mirrors. All of which not only do not exist...but would be next to useless if they did.
He'll be damned if he'll be stopped in this pursuit by anything so pedestrian as reality.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:11 PM   #11
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Big Oil has a monopoly on motor fuel which Henry Ford tried to prevent with the early Model T's.
THEY will set the price to whatever THEY want.
Barry has no control over the price.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:16 PM   #12
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If he was smart, he'd call the energy reserves currently at rest under federal land a shared national resource, and couple expanded us energy production with a nationalized counterpart to the private energy producers..

It's a stupid idea.. But it would address the issue, be completely socialist, probably prove quite popular and give him an incredible amount of power and control..

The Repubs would block it, of course.. and he could rail at them for keeping the "People's Oil" away from them.. and handing it off to a, OMG! GREEDY CARTEL!!

Imagine the shitstorm THAT would kick off.. ?

And every time a republican brought up energy, he'd just accuse them of being in the pocket of their rich pals!

But he's not that smart.. Big energy would shit themselves at the thought of having to compete with an entity that doesn't have to show a profit.. Gas prices could be whatever he wanted.

It would be an election year nightmare for the R's..
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:16 PM   #13
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Big Oil has a monopoly on motor fuel which Henry Ford tried to prevent with the early Model T's.
THEY will set the price to whatever THEY want.
Barry has no control over the price.
Nonsense. Your 'professor plum visits the museum' video was so full of holes it's laughable. Spark advance and retard is required for varying engine speed and load- not fuel changeover. A grade 9 autoshop student knows more about engineering than that idiot.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:17 PM   #14
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Maybe the unions would take a pay cut to ease the expense.

We could move the world supply by over 5%.

What's next the standard line about it will take ten years. Well if we would have started 4 years ago when the democrats used that line on a regular basis we'd be that much closer, wouldn't we.

If Obama gave a fuck he would have approved the Keystone pipeline and created jobs, instead of jerking off while taking it up the ass from the extreme left.
It's expensive mostly because much of it is difficult to extract.

Anyway, you might be right, we may be able to increase world supply by 5%, in fifteen or twenty years. My guess would be something closer to 2-3%.

So, at today's gas prices, assuming OPEC doesn't cut back, and demand remains on it's current path, fifteen years from now gasoline would be maybe 15 cents cheaper than if we didn't drill at all.

Clearly, this is not a solution.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:18 PM   #15
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Alcohol Prohibition ended the farmer's' ability to continue alcohol production for the cars as a competitive alternative to petroleum.

Competition is a sin.
~John D. Rockefeller
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:19 PM   #16
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Americans are generally poorly versed on energy (Which is why they think boondoggles like PV solar actually work and are cost effective) and quite suspicious of energy producers. They see "cabals" out there... The Speculators play neatly into this scenario..

There would BE NONE of that with a national oil company.. I think he could sell it quite easily.. Use it as a foil to poke the R's with this fall.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #17
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Alcohol Prohibition ended the farmer's' ability to continue alcohol production for the cars as a competitive alternative to petroleum.

Competition is a sin.
~John D. Rockefeller
Alcohol isn't a viable alternative currently.. We simply use too much oil, and alcohol has too few BTU's to be competitive.

It costs much more, and you need much more of it to do the same job.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:22 PM   #18
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One you HAVE control of the oil.. Can you imagine how ferociously Americans would defend that?

Think a national health service or entitlements would be impossible to get rid of.. Imagine a national oil company?
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:24 PM   #19
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And what the fuck would the R's say when they're discussing "Energy Independence from those.. OMG! SHEIKS OF HAET OUR FREEDOMS!!!!!!!!!! "

What could possibly BE MORE independent from EVERYBODY than a National Oil Company?

He'd whip them black and blue with this idea.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:26 PM   #20
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Wall Street would shit itself.. The Oil Majors would shit themselves.. The Republicans would shit themselves..

It'd be like that "brown noise" episode from South Park..

He could EASILY tie to National Security, claim a constitutional mandate and employ the military and the Corp of Engineers and the Geologists in this venture..

He could sell it as high tech jobs creation..
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