[njfeedd3w]

In some situations it, and much more harsh, is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Never against American citizens and never against uniformed soldiers though.

I agree; but any Muslims, or niggers should be waterboarded, have their fingernails ripped off, tortured for days. Then when we tire of torturing them, take them to the middle of the Sahara (or any other desert will do.) Cut off their goddamn eyelids and tie them to a post all day long and let the sun cook their tiny brains out.

[ToifvT5S]

It's how they killed Whitnay. WHITNAAAAAAAYYYY!!!

[Lotyqnag]

Absolutely not.

[brraverishhh]

Will the t-shirt get wet?

[expiclefich]

It's harmless. Great way to get somebody to talk, too. We do it to our troops in evasion training. It sucks when it's happening, but there are no lasting effects. It's no different than turning up or down the thermostat or pumping in loud music for hours on end.

That being said, there is a time and a place. For it to remain effective, it should only be used when needed. If time is of the essence and there is no doubt that somebody is a bad guy. If there is doubt, it should be off the table. Though, would you really shed a tear if cops did it to gang-bangers?

[crazuMovies]

It's harmless. Great way to get somebody to talk, too. We do it to our troops in evasion training. It sucks when it's happening, but there are no lasting effects. It's no different than turning up or down the thermostat or pumping in loud music for hours on end.

That being said, there is a time and a place. For it to remain effective, it should only be used when needed. If time is of the essence and there is no doubt that somebody is a bad guy. If there is doubt, it should be off the table. Though, would you really shed a tear if cops did it to gang-bangers?

I just can't figure out why it isn't kept secret. It leaves no marks, that's the beauty of it.

I know that sometimes you have to do unpleasant things in order to protect the greater good, but why publicize it? Why feed the fire?

It would have been much more effective to come out and say that KSM was a coward and a stool pigeon who talked openly and willingly with US authorities. Tarnish his name, and hurt the morale of al Qaeda, as well as keep them guessing about how much we know...

Am I crazy? Aren't we doing this all wrong?

[gluckmeea]

It's harmless. Great way to get somebody to talk, too. We do it to our troops in evasion training. It sucks when it's happening, but there are no lasting effects. It's no different than turning up or down the thermostat or pumping in loud music for hours on end.

That being said, there is a time and a place. For it to remain effective, it should only be used when needed. If time is of the essence and there is no doubt that somebody is a bad guy. If there is doubt, it should be off the table. Though, would you really shed a tear if cops did it to gang-bangers?

No one would give a shit if the cops did that to those assholes. Plenty of people would stand up, and 'condemn' it, but even those people would lose no sleep over it. I certainly wouldn't. Fuck 'em all.

[vodaPlaps]

I just can't figure out why it isn't kept secret. It leaves no marks, that's the beauty of it.

I know that sometimes you have to do unpleasant things in order to protect the greater good, but why publicize it? Why feed the fire?

It would have been much more effective to come out and say that KSM was a coward and a stool pigeon who talked openly and willingly with US authorities. Tarnish his name, and hurt the morale of al Qaeda, as well as keep them guessing about how much we know...

Am I crazy? Aren't we doing this all wrong?

I can't disagree with that. It is even more effective as a surprise. We should have never let that cat out of the bag. I blame liberals, as always.

[JamesTornC]

No one would give a shit if the cops did that to those assholes. Plenty of people would stand up, and 'condemn' it, but even those people would lose no sleep over it. I certainly wouldn't. Fuck 'em all.

Yeah, it's always fun watching people take moral stands that carry no risk.

Have I told you that I vehemently oppose cancer? Aren't I brave?

[DoroKickcrofe]

Waterboarding is torture and torture is forbidden by the Geneva Conventions rules of war. An emphatic "NO".

[Foucceedo]

[QUOTE=North Beach Bum;519092]Waterboarding is torture and torture is forbidden by the Geneva Conventions rules of war. An emphatic "NO".[/QUO

You're only against it because of an international treaty? Well, you're in luck, my friend. The Geneva Convention only applies to uniformed soldiers from a nation-state. Non-uniformed belligerents are fair game. Feel better?

[Kiliunjubl]

Yes, the camel fuckers need to shower.

[Dwemadayday]

You're only against it because of an international treaty? Well, you're in luck, my friend. The Geneva Convention only applies to uniformed soldiers from a nation-state. Non-uniformed belligerents are fair game. Feel better?
No, I don't feel better. That loophole you're trying to pull out of your ass was used by GW, a well known neo-con, progressive, skull and bones and one world order buttplug. I don't buy it. Try selling that shit to someone who has less intelligence than their sneaker size.

[Caregrasy]

No, I don't feel better. That loophole you're trying to pull out of your ass was used by GW, a well known neo-con, progressive, skull and bones and one world order buttplug. I don't buy it. Try selling that shit to someone who has less intelligence than their sneaker size.

FDR created the enemy combatant designation.

[AlistDakisa]

No, I don't feel better. That loophole you're trying to pull out of your ass was used by GW, a well known neo-con, progressive, skull and bones and one world order buttplug. I don't buy it. Try selling that shit to someone who has less intelligence than their sneaker size.

Don't get mad at me, sweetheart. You're the one telling the world that you only oppose waterboarding because the international community does. Doesn't surprise me...

[vNZsk39B]

No, I don't feel better. That loophole you're trying to pull out of your ass was used by GW, a well known neo-con, progressive, skull and bones and one world order buttplug. I don't buy it. Try selling that shit to someone who has less intelligence than their sneaker size.

Ha, I just noticed that you referred to yourself as smart in your post. That's funny. Thanks for the laugh.

[RogHammon]

Thanks again for pointing out to the forum that you don't have an ounce of decency in your whole body. Karma is a fucking bitch.

[Jeffery]

Thanks again for pointing out to the forum that you don't have an ounce of decency in your whole body. Karma is a fucking bitch.

That's your comeback? I pointed out that you haven't provided a moral reason for opposing waterboarding, just a legal one, and you complain about my lack of decency? Priceless. Whatever the UN tells you, eh kid?

[pertikuss]

Of course we should...we should use use blowtorches on genetalia or whatever means we need to justify the end.

[hrthwhr]

DURESS....