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Old 02-04-2012, 11:01 PM   #1
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Default Ron Paul and His Enemies
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"This may be recorded as neoconservatism’s most singular achievement: to have their disastrous strategies enacted in Iraq, see them thoroughly discredited, and yet nonetheless retain their spots as the Beltway arbiters of “responsible” conservative opinion, with the power to exclude those who dissent. But the neoconservatives understand better than anyone how tenuous is this hold on the Washington discourse, how necessary it is to crush dissident movements before they can grow beyond the cradle. Thus a septuagenarian congressman who is an outlier in his own party must be treated as a mortal threat, his ideas not debated or refuted, but obliterated, presented as so far beyond the pale that no sane person could entertain them."
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:34 PM   #2
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"This may be recorded as neoconservatism’s most singular achievement: to have their disastrous strategies enacted in Iraq, see them thoroughly discredited, and yet nonetheless retain their spots as the Beltway arbiters of “responsible” conservative opinion, with the power to exclude those who dissent.
Assuming that observers are so abysmally stupid, that they forget from whence those ideas originated.

That's a hell of an assumption. Someone's always keeping score.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:37 PM   #3
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Assuming that observers are so abysmally stupid, that they forget from whence those ideas originated.

That's a hell of an assumption. Someone's always keeping score.

I wouldn't call it an assumption at all.

Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer are covering the Republican primaries as "experts". The same people are still calling the shots for the GOP as ten years ago.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:37 PM   #4
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The Weekly Standard has not lost it's prestige.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:53 PM   #5
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I wouldn't call it an assumption at all.

Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer are covering the Republican primaries as "experts". The same people are still calling the shots for the GOP as ten years ago.
And yet these 'experts' neither represent the public perception (who aren't experts), nor influence the ballot.

It's the usual case of spin doctors telling us what we believe, and the public rarely agrees. Would they even understand?
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:09 AM   #6
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I wouldn't call it an assumption at all.

Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer are covering the Republican primaries as "experts". The same people are still calling the shots for the GOP as ten years ago.
no one cares what those two clowns say. you give them way too much credit
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:29 AM   #7
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no one cares what those two clowns say. you give them way too much credit
They have the "pulpit". They're employed by major news organizations. Their employers must have reason to believe that people want to hear what they have to say.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:03 AM   #8
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They have the "pulpit". They're employed by major news organizations. Their employers must have reason to believe that people want to hear what they have to say.
Or hope so.
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Old 02-05-2012, 04:36 PM   #9
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They have the "pulpit". They're employed by major news organizations. Their employers must have reason to believe that people want to hear what they have to say.
they are wrong, no one cares what these guys think. I don't, do you? does anyone?

give it up Jes. ron paul is going nowhere---third or fourth place, wasting time and money.
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:16 PM   #10
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:17 PM   #11
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http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s
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FUCK ALL POLITICAL PARTIES.

JUST FUCK THEM ALL.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:20 PM   #12
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http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s
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FUCK ALL POLITICAL PARTIES.

JUST FUCK THEM ALL.
Yeah, now that is a good practical solution. exactly how do we implement that?

It continues to amaze me that some on this forum think you are clever.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:23 PM   #13
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He is clever. He's a brilliant poster. Just because you don't understand him doesn't mean he is a simpleton.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:38 PM   #14
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I'm sure Ron Paul will lose, but I just hope his true conservative ideals aren't forgotten. Because that's what America needs to be strong again.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:39 PM   #15
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I'm sure Ron Paul will lose, but I just hope his true conservative ideals aren't forgotten. Because that's what America needs to be strong again.
He's made a difference. It will be up to the rest of us to carry it forward.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:18 PM   #16
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I'm sure Ron Paul will lose, but I just hope his true conservative ideals aren't forgotten. Because that's what America needs to be strong again.
Many of his ideas are right on point. Its just a shame that he is such a poor messenger and is so off base on some of his foreign policy ideas.

I think he will have a major speech at the convention and will impact what goes on the platform, and that is good.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:20 PM   #17
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He is clever. He's a brilliant poster. Just because you don't understand him doesn't mean he is a simpleton.
He is not clever, he is juvenile. If you think its clever and brilliant, that does not say much for you. I understand him probably better than the rest of you.

Like post #11 in this thread-----clever? brilliant? I think not.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:41 PM   #18
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He is not clever, he is juvenile. If you think its clever and brilliant, that does not say much for you. I understand him probably better than the rest of you.

Like post #11 in this thread-----clever? brilliant? I think not.
Well, it wasn't an outline of any methodology.

Simply an exclamation of frustration, and abiding anger.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:44 PM   #19
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Well, it wasn't an outline of any methodology.

Simply an exclamation of frustration, and abiding anger.
why are you making excuses for him?
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:47 PM   #20
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why are you making excuses for him?
Post #11 couldn't really be criticised for it's factual content, since it was an exclamation.
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