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**dr-eavealer** · 02-03-2012, 11:46 PM

First of all, we all know that states have the right to establish a gov't health system. It's perfectly lawful.

So let's not waste our time arguing about that. We are in agreement.

That being said, I am of the opinion that when you allow the free market to work naturally, you will get both better care and more affordable care.

So I inherently have a philosophical problem with any type of gov't healthcare schemes.

And I therefore have a disagreement with Mitt on this. I have to question his qualifications, if he believes that a state-run healthcare system is capable of trumping the free market.

This is a huge issue for me.

**Muesrasrs** · 02-03-2012, 11:47 PM

NO, THEY DON'T.

**XIMHOTEP-X** · 02-03-2012, 11:49 PM

NO, THEY DON'T.

Oh, great. LOL...

**abouthotels** · 02-03-2012, 11:56 PM

I understand what you're saying, KB...

I'd just rather avoid that issue, for the time being.

**sarasmid** · 02-04-2012, 12:18 AM

Come on guys!

Defend gov't healthcare!

**DesautocaD** · 02-04-2012, 12:30 AM

**enencephoth** · 02-04-2012, 12:49 AM

I AM NOT A SLAVE.

I AM NOT AN ITEM OF CHATTEL.

**SHaEFU0i** · 02-04-2012, 01:09 AM

No one is going to defend it because none of us think that its a good thing.

did not invent it. the majority of the citizens of Mass and its legislature passed it. I guess he could have vetoed it, but how is that going along with the will of the people he represented? He was governor of a liberal democrat state, they voted for state run medical care. To put it all on him is ignoring the facts.

and for the record-----repealing obamacare is a big deal with me---------and romney has pledged to do just that

**Hodstcopter** · 02-04-2012, 01:09 AM

I AM NOT A SLAVE.

I AM NOT AN ITEM OF CHATTEL.

goats are chattel.

**uphokyhuP** · 02-04-2012, 01:11 AM

http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s
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YOU MAY PURCHASE INSURANCE FOR YOUR GOAT

IF YOU LIKE.

IT'S NO CONCERN OF MINE.

**KellyLynchIV** · 02-04-2012, 01:29 AM

Come on guys!

Defend gov't healthcare!

I don't get government healthcare. I don't even get the $700 a month taxpayer subsidy for my health insurance plan like government employees, members of Congress and their staff all get. You know like... um, um ... well, you all know who we are talking about. One of them whose name on here is evidently verbotten to link it with.

**xrumerang** · 02-04-2012, 01:53 AM

I don't get government healthcare. I don't even get the $700 a month taxpayer subsidy for my health insurance plan like government employees, members of Congress and their staff all get. You know like... um, um ... well, you all know who we are talking about. One of them whose name on here is evidently verbotten to link it with.

Does every post you make have to be about him?!?!?

**inofindy** · 02-04-2012, 01:55 AM

did not invent it. the majority of the citizens of Mass and its legislature passed it. I guess he could have vetoed it, but how is that going along with the will of the people he represented? He was governor of a liberal democrat state, they voted for state run medical care. To put it all on him is ignoring the facts.

I would have vetoed it, with no hesitation.

You don't go against your foundational principles, for the "will of the people".

This casts a big question mark on a presidency, as far as I am concerned.

**CaseyFronczekHomie** · 02-04-2012, 01:58 AM

I would have vetoed it, with no hesitation.

You don't go against your foundational principles, for the "will of the people".

This casts a big question mark on a presidency, as far as I am concerned.

that just shows how little you know about how the world really works. If you want to vote for Obama, just do it and STFU about it.

**Extipletape** · 02-04-2012, 02:00 AM

Tennessee tried it, it was a miserable failure.

http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville....html?page=all

**GogaMegaPiska** · 02-04-2012, 02:08 AM

OBAMA AIN'T SHIT....

HE DOES NOT MATTER.

**Mjypksun** · 02-04-2012, 02:10 AM

http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IF YOU PEOPLE PUT TWO INSURANCE PIMPS IN A ROW

IN THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU ARE GOING TO GET

ONE HELL OF A BUTT-FUCKING.

**Dertrioz** · 02-04-2012, 02:10 AM

that just shows how little you know about how the world really works. If you want to vote for Obama, just do it and STFU about it.

Avoid and obfuscate. And repeat.

You're a fucking douchebag.

**broksaksaak** · 02-04-2012, 02:14 AM

Avoid and obfuscate. And repeat.

You're a fucking douchebag.

your continual attacks on every GOP candidate except the one who has no chance certainly makes you look like an obamabot. How do you think destroying the GOP helps rid us of the cancer called obama?

your insults just confirm your inadequacies in the debate of the issues.

**tetMitshisk** · 02-04-2012, 02:21 AM

OBAMA IS A FAILED PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT.

LEAVE HIM TO HIS GOLF.

FIRE THIS GOD-DAMNED CONGRESS!

02-03-2012, 11:46 PM	#1
dr-eavealer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 603 Senior Member	Romneycare First of all, we all know that states have the right to establish a gov't health system. It's perfectly lawful. So let's not waste our time arguing about that. We are in agreement. That being said, I am of the opinion that when you allow the free market to work naturally, you will get both better care and more affordable care. So I inherently have a philosophical problem with any type of gov't healthcare schemes. And I therefore have a disagreement with Mitt on this. I have to question his qualifications, if he believes that a state-run healthcare system is capable of trumping the free market. This is a huge issue for me. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Muesrasrs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 382 Senior Member	NO, THEY DON'T. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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XIMHOTEP-X Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 395 Senior Member	NO, THEY DON'T. Oh, great. LOL... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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abouthotels Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 541 Senior Member	I understand what you're saying, KB... I'd just rather avoid that issue, for the time being. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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sarasmid Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	Come on guys! Defend gov't healthcare! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:09 AM	#8
SHaEFU0i Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	No one is going to defend it because none of us think that its a good thing. did not invent it. the majority of the citizens of Mass and its legislature passed it. I guess he could have vetoed it, but how is that going along with the will of the people he represented? He was governor of a liberal democrat state, they voted for state run medical care. To put it all on him is ignoring the facts. and for the record-----repealing obamacare is a big deal with me---------and romney has pledged to do just that Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Hodstcopter Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	I AM NOT A SLAVE. I AM NOT AN ITEM OF CHATTEL. goats are chattel. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:11 AM	#10
uphokyhuP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOU MAY PURCHASE INSURANCE FOR YOUR GOAT IF YOU LIKE. IT'S NO CONCERN OF MINE. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:29 AM	#11
KellyLynchIV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	Come on guys! Defend gov't healthcare! I don't get government healthcare. I don't even get the $700 a month taxpayer subsidy for my health insurance plan like government employees, members of Congress and their staff all get. You know like... um, um ... well, you all know who we are talking about. One of them whose name on here is evidently verbotten to link it with. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:53 AM	#12
xrumerang Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	I don't get government healthcare. I don't even get the $700 a month taxpayer subsidy for my health insurance plan like government employees, members of Congress and their staff all get. You know like... um, um ... well, you all know who we are talking about. One of them whose name on here is evidently verbotten to link it with. Does every post you make have to be about him?!?!? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:55 AM	#13
inofindy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 473 Senior Member	did not invent it. the majority of the citizens of Mass and its legislature passed it. I guess he could have vetoed it, but how is that going along with the will of the people he represented? He was governor of a liberal democrat state, they voted for state run medical care. To put it all on him is ignoring the facts. I would have vetoed it, with no hesitation. You don't go against your foundational principles, for the "will of the people". This casts a big question mark on a presidency, as far as I am concerned. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 01:58 AM	#14
CaseyFronczekHomie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	I would have vetoed it, with no hesitation. You don't go against your foundational principles, for the "will of the people". This casts a big question mark on a presidency, as far as I am concerned. that just shows how little you know about how the world really works. If you want to vote for Obama, just do it and STFU about it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Extipletape Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 397 Senior Member	Tennessee tried it, it was a miserable failure. http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville....html?page=all Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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GogaMegaPiska Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	OBAMA AIN'T SHIT.... HE DOES NOT MATTER. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mjypksun Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/v4nDquUmH7s ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IF YOU PEOPLE PUT TWO INSURANCE PIMPS IN A ROW IN THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU ARE GOING TO GET ONE HELL OF A BUTT-FUCKING. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Dertrioz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	that just shows how little you know about how the world really works. If you want to vote for Obama, just do it and STFU about it. Avoid and obfuscate. And repeat. You're a fucking douchebag. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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broksaksaak Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	Avoid and obfuscate. And repeat. You're a fucking douchebag. your continual attacks on every GOP candidate except the one who has no chance certainly makes you look like an obamabot. How do you think destroying the GOP helps rid us of the cancer called obama? your insults just confirm your inadequacies in the debate of the issues. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-04-2012, 02:21 AM	#20
tetMitshisk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	OBAMA IS A FAILED PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT. LEAVE HIM TO HIS GOLF. FIRE THIS GOD-DAMNED CONGRESS! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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