[Edifsdubs]

"A week ago Ron Paul tried to convey how the ever-tightening sanctions on Iran--which may soon include an embargo on its oil--look from an Iranian point of view: It's as if China were to blockade the Gulf of Mexico, he said--"an act of war".

This is sheer conjecture; Ron Paul is no expert on Iran. But now someone who does have relevant credentials has weighed in, and the picture he paints is disturbingly reminiscent of the one Paul painted. It suggests we may be closer to war than most people realize..."

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...nately/250955/

[amagmasia]

The upside is that liberal's are headed to war, via a draft...

Seriously though, Im starting to think all Iran has is bluster and pomp.
If they think sactions are hurting thier economy now, imagine what life will be like when thier ports and infrastructure are obilterated.

[Cheaperisdeeper]

The upside is that liberal's are headed to war, via a draft...

Seriously though, Im starting to think all Iran has is bluster and pomp.
If they think sactions are hurting thier economy now, imagine what life will be like when thier ports and infrastructure are obilterated.

imagine the profits accrued by haliburton, kby, et al to rebuild them at taxpayer expense.

[bug_user]

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...e-iran/100219/

[VotsUtegems]

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...e-iran/100219/

Interesting pics in that link...
worth the click.

[blogforloversxx]

These sanctions and a possible blockade on Iran are a deliberate provocation designed to force them into war and make it look like they are the aggressor. "Today the Iranian Navy attacked American ships. Washington has vowed full retaliation for the unprovoked attack".

This tactic has been used since at least WW2 and the stupid masses fall for it every time.
Even when Iran tries to negotiate with us we refuse and somehow lay the blame on them. The fact is, Shitzrael and America want a puppet Iran and will stop at nothing to get it.

[VQdeochratis]

It's the very epitome of dirty politics. Absolutely disgraceful.

[dietpillxanaxaxx]

The upside is that liberal's are headed to war, via a draft...

Seriously though, Im starting to think all Iran has is bluster and pomp.
If they think sactions are hurting thier economy now, imagine what life will be like when thier ports and infrastructure are obilterated.

How long till Obama puts in a draft? That should be fun to see when all those OWS tards get rounded up and put in the Army by Obama to die in Iran!!!

[Svatudjw]

http://youtu.be/5HKAuaU5VlE
http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
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OWS, QUARTERBACKS, AND UNIONISTS WILL BE EXCUSED.

THE FUNCTION OF THE DRAFT IS TO GET THE NIGRA BOYS

OFF THE STREET CORNERS.

[monologue]

These sanctions and a possible blockade on Iran are a deliberate provocation designed to force them into war and make it look like they are the aggressor. "Today the Iranian Navy attacked American ships. Washington has vowed full retaliation for the unprovoked attack".

This tactic has been used since at least WW2 and the stupid masses fall for it every time.
Even when Iran tries to negotiate with us we refuse and somehow lay the blame on them. The fact is, Shitzrael and America want a puppet Iran and will stop at nothing to get it.

Where was it used in WWII?

[MontyP@thon]

http://youtu.be/5HKAuaU5VlE
http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
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DIDN'T WE INTERFERE WITH THE JAPANESE IN INDOCHINA?

[JRixlcvF]

Where was it used in WWII?

LOL, I mistyped. I meant WWI and for 8 months or so afterward. I was referring to the British blockade of Germany that deliberately starved hundreds of thousands of civilians to death. It was one of the primary factors that eventually led to Hitler's rise to power.

But putting the "particulars" aside, economic sanctions of this kind typically leave nations with little other choice than to fight back militarily. The rape of Germany (Versailles) left Germany with no choice. The US embargo on Japan led to Pearl Harbor. Both countries tried to negotiate but the allies refused because they wanted war. The same is true in the case of Iran.

[pouslytut]

Who said it wouldn't provoke them? Who said that Iran would just lay down and take it? Of course they are going to get upset. They're buzzing like bees in a hive now. Will there be war? Doubtful. Obama would have to be pretty stupid for that. It makes much more sense to just keep poking at them and cutting them off from the rest of the world. They can either talk about making some changes, or they can deal with it. Something tells me that China and Russia will help them out on the back-end and Iran won't be as put upon as you would expect with international sanctions. Ron Paul stated a worst-case scenario of the obvious. We're applauding that now? Somebody better get Seymour Hersch in here and give him big kudos for all of his alarmism over the last 20 years.

[Jannet.K]

LOL, I mistyped. I meant WWI and for 8 months or so afterward. I was referring to the British blockade of Germany that deliberately starved hundreds of thousands of civilians to death. It was one of the primary factors that eventually led to Hitler's rise to power.

But putting the "particulars" aside, economic sanctions of this kind typically leave nations with little other choice than to fight back militarily. The rape of Germany (Versailles) left Germany with no choice. The US embargo on Japan led to Pearl Harbor. Both countries tried to negotiate but the allies refused because they wanted war. The same is true in the case of Iran.

I thought you were making a case for provoking attack to get into war, like the Gulf of Tonkin. Thanks for the clarification. I was waiting for some nutbar theory about the US letting Pearl Harbor get attacked to get into the war. Whew! Glad we didn't have to go down that road.

I still don't think there will be a war. I could be wrong, of course, as Iran is not a rational player in this game and could react in some crazy way. But, I think it's all theater, and that eventually it will lead to them making a big display of giving up their nuclear program while getting some big thing that they wanted from us all along. We saw this game once in North Korea.

[plogypeskelry]

http://youtu.be/5HKAuaU5VlE
http://youtu.be/0uUnA7ySOec
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GOOD LUCK KEEPING OIL FROM LEAKING OUT OF IRAN...

ESPECIALLY IF THE U.S ECONOMY REVIVES... WHICH IT WILL IF

OBAMA GETS A GOOD STOMPING BY AN OTHER-THAN-ROMNEY.

[IRMartin]

DEAR LEADER MANAGED TO CONTROL THE BOARD.....

[Accecyncphory]

LOL, I mistyped. I meant WWI and for 8 months or so afterward. I was referring to the British blockade of Germany that deliberately starved hundreds of thousands of civilians to death. It was one of the primary factors that eventually led to Hitler's rise to power.

But putting the "particulars" aside, economic sanctions of this kind typically leave nations with little other choice than to fight back militarily. The rape of Germany (Versailles) left Germany with no choice. The US embargo on Japan led to Pearl Harbor. Both countries tried to negotiate but the allies refused because they wanted war. The same is true in the case of Iran.

'Rape of Germany'. lulz

You are aware that Versailles wasn't so very punitive as some would have us believe, I hope.

[clapsoewmred]

'Rape of Germany'. lulz

You are aware that Versailles wasn't so very punitive as some would have us believe, I hope.

You are flat wrong.

[teridbruse]

You are flat wrong.

Not even remotely.

It's oft touted as being some great and unconscionable imposition. The reality, however, is that Versaille was something less than what the Germans' indignation made of it.

It restored lands taken (mostly after plebiscite), to it's rightful owners. It left Germany intact, and with every practical trace of sovereignty; with every possibility of regaining it's former status as the most powerful nation in Europe.

What bothered them the most, were the disarmament clauses, and the separation of East Prussia from the Volke, after the return of land taken from Poland, during the partition. Mostly because they considered the Poles an inferior race.

The hysteria that ensued, was not unlike that embraced with the 'stab in the back' myth, wilfuly and eagerly taken to heart, after Germany was roundly defeated on the field of battle. A pathological inability to accept the truth.

[jesyflowers]

Not even remotely.

It's oft touted as being some great and unconscionable imposition. The reality, however, is that Versaille was something less than what the Germans' indignation made of it.

It restored lands taken (mostly after plebiscite), to it's rightful owners. It left Germany intact, and with every practical trace of sovereignty; with every possibility of regaining it's former status as the most powerful nation in Europe.

What bothered them the most, were the disarmament clauses, and the separation of East Prussia from the Volke, after the return of land taken from Poland, during the partition. Mostly because they considered the Poles an inferior race.

The hysteria that ensued, was not unlike that embraced with the 'stab in the back' myth, wilfuly and eagerly taken to heart, after Germany was roundly defeated on the field of battle. A pathological inability to accept the truth.

You left out all of the confiscations of privately owned German property around the world. The confiscation of livestock even though Germany was essentially experiencing a famine induced by the British blockade. The theft of the coal mines, the debts which were meant to never allow Germany to recover, etc., etc. etc.

Sorry, brah, but the "good guys" were no better or less barbaric than the "bad guys".