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Old 01-12-2012, 03:10 PM   #21
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We have a monetary system which uses inflation to funnel money from the poor to the rich, through outrageous inflationary measures.

Where on Earth did you come up with that ridiculous statement?
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:10 PM   #22
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I think the events of the last few days have pretty much identified them..

The outright hysterics over an old man they claim stands no chance whatsoever just sorta says it all.

Conspiracy theories.. Threats.. Sloppy logic. Constitution shitting. Fiscal recklessness. You name it, they'd said it over Ron Paul and this election.
No, Hoffa, thats not it al all. some of us are realistic in our assessments of who can and cannot win the nomination and the general election. Ron Paul does not have a snowballs chance in hell of doing either.

continuing the blind support of him only helps us to another 4 years of obama socialism and corruption. Is that what you want?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:23 AM   #23
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We have a monetary system which uses inflation to funnel money from the poor to the rich, through outrageous inflationary measures.

Where on Earth did you come up with that ridiculous statement?
Not sure what you're asking...

Do you need a summary of how inflation effects poorer people harder than wealthier investors?
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:35 AM   #24
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Not sure what you're asking...

Do you need a summary of how inflation effects poorer people harder than wealthier investors?
Inflation costs wealthy people more than it costs poor people.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:51 AM   #25
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Inflation costs wealthy people more than it costs poor people.
No. It doesn't.

Inflation always hits the stock market, product pricing, etc, faster than it hits wages. Always. Wage earners are constantly playing catch-up.

This is elementary...
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:54 AM   #26
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No. It doesn't.

Inflation always hits the stock market, product pricing, etc, faster than it hits wages. Always. Wage earners are constantly playing catch-up.

This is elementary...
The more money a person spends, the more inflation will cost him.

This is elementary.....
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:59 AM   #27
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The more money a person spends, the more inflation will cost him.

This is elementary.....
Not if their earnings are increasing at the same rate.

Inflation hurts wage earners and people with money in simple savings.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:29 AM   #28
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Think on this, BEB...

The top wages in the construction field have not moved an incredible amount in the last 15 years. But the cost of living has moved upward by a lot. That's because of inflation, for the most part.

The cost of oil products, especially, have jumped mightily because of inflation.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:31 AM   #29
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Inflation/Income dance.

The purest form of politics.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:35 AM   #30
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Think on this, BEB...

The top wages in the construction field have not moved an incredible amount in the last 15 years. But the cost of living has moved upward by a lot. That's because of inflation, for the most part.

The cost of oil products, especially, have jumped mightily because of inflation.
That's somewhat true. But inflation isn't the reason construction wages are stagnant. We are in the middle of an economic depression, people aren't building like they were 5 or 10 years ago and therefor the market for construction jobs is stagnant and even receding. Add the illegal mexican element to the mix and it gets even further removed from inflation.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:37 AM   #31
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That's somewhat true. But inflation isn't the reason construction wages are stagnant. We are in the middle of an economic depression, people aren't building like they were 5 or 10 years ago and therefor the market for construction jobs is stagnant and even receding. Add the illegal mexican element to the mix and it gets even further removed from inflation.
No, it's not the reason, and those other things are true, too. But when the market was crazy, and prices were rising insanely, wages didn't keep up at the same rate. They never do. There is always a delay for wages.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:42 AM   #32
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No, it's not the reason, and those other things are true, too. But when the market was crazy, and prices were rising insanely, wages didn't keep up at the same rate. They never do. There is always a delay for wages.
I'm in the construction industry. I made more money than I previously ever had during that period. I also paid more in wages than I ever had before.

But it makes sense that wages are delayed in a normal economy. Right now they are going backwards. Not because of inflation, but because of Obama's 'depression'.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:44 AM   #33
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I'm in the construction industry. I made more money than I previously ever had during that period. I also paid more in wages than I ever had before.

But it makes sense that wages are delayed in a normal economy. Right now they are going backwards. Not because of inflation, but because of Obama's 'depression'.

It's actually the worst possible scenario. Wages are going down because of high unemployment, but at the same time, all of the money printing is making prices higher!
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Old 01-13-2012, 03:10 AM   #34
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Think on this, BEB...

The top wages in the construction field have not moved an incredible amount in the last 15 years. But the cost of living has moved upward by a lot. That's because of inflation, for the most part.

The cost of oil products, especially, have jumped mightily because of inflation.
Damn, tonto. If you were only half as smart as you think you are, you might garner some credibility. Your preaching of the gospel according to jeshu, is really quite juvenile.

You do not know everything, you are much too young to know how the world really works and what got us in this mess.

the problem is liberal progressive thought, not either party or any man. And your boy Ron Paul has been part of it for over 20 years, he is not the solution, he is part of the problem
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:28 AM   #35
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Damn, tonto. If you were only half as smart as you think you are, you might garner some credibility. Your preaching of the gospel according to jeshu, is really quite juvenile.

You do not know everything, you are much too young to know how the world really works and what got us in this mess.

the problem is liberal progressive thought, not either party or any man. And your boy Ron Paul has been part of it for over 20 years, he is not the solution, he is part of the problem

You're not saying anything in this post. Nothing at all.

If you have a point, make it. If not, settle down and be quiet. Adults are talking.
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:59 PM   #36
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You're not saying anything in this post. Nothing at all.

If you have a point, make it. If not, settle down and be quiet. Adults are talking.
My point is that you are an arrogant, somewhat intelligent, inexperienced kid who, like most kids, thinks he knows everything and has all the answers---------you don't.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:05 PM   #37
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My point is that you are an arrogant, somewhat intelligent, inexperienced kid who, like most kids, thinks he knows everything and has all the answers---------you don't.

I'm going to be 35 years old in a few weeks, Bub. I'm hardly a "kid".

I wrote this thread for you and your buddies.

It is knowledgeable, thoughtful, and well written. With all of your decades of experience, you have never posted anything remotely equivalent to it.

Intellectually, I am your elder. You should show the proper respect.

Now, I am done with you. Get off my internet.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:12 PM   #38
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I'm going to be 35 years old in a few weeks, Bub. I'm hardly a "kid".

I wrote this thread for you and your buddies.

It is knowledgeable, thoughtful, and well written. With all of your decades of experience, you have never posted anything remotely equivalent to it.

Intellectually, I am your elder. You should show the proper respect.

Now, I am done with you. Get off my internet.
Nice try, little indian brave. But another example of your arrogance. Respect those who have actually done something in this world, you might learn something.

I actually think you have potential and with some mentoring you might become a force to be considered, but you are not there yet.

Put the arrogance in your back pocket for a while. You might realize that others actually have some valid arguments.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:15 PM   #39
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We have a slate of Presidential candidates who have no plan for dealing with this problem. There is only one economic plan out there that balances the budget. One. 's plan, for instance, would increase the debt by $6.5 trillion through 2021, and doesn't anticipate an actual balanced budget until the middle of the century. That's 40 years from now, folks. The Ryan Plan, the best to come out of Congress, is slightly "better", envisioning a balanced budget by 2040. To think that we can continue to kick this can down the road without severe consequences is very naive.
I don't understand how this is acceptable to Conservatives. It is failure.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:17 PM   #40
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I don't understand how this is acceptable to Conservatives. It is failure.
Yes it is. Thats why we need to replace congress with tea party advocates. The POTUS, no matter who it is, cannot do it alone.
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