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**simmons latex mattress** · 09-30-2011, 04:43 PM

Well, I won't. But if my new son gets autism because of them, I'm taking a fucking flamethrower to this place...

He'll be fine and congratulations on your new son.

**LookSe** · 09-30-2011, 04:44 PM

One thing that I noticed was my two older kids (19 and 20) had their immunizations spaced out over 5 years and my 5 yo received hers in 3 years. That may be part of the problem.

Too much too soon?

That's one of the claims. The immunization schedule is fast and furious during the first two years, when the brain is still developing. Also, they have done combination vaccines, like MMR. Those used to be three separate shots. Does combining those viruses create a problem? I don't know...

**palantownia** · 09-30-2011, 04:45 PM

He'll be fine and congratulations on your new son.

Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer...

**mr.nemo** · 09-30-2011, 04:45 PM

One thing that I noticed was my two older kids (19 and 20) had their immunizations spaced out over 5 years and my 5 yo received hers in 3 years. That may be part of the problem.

Too much too soon?

I doubt that would have anything to do with it. Our immune system is beautiful and processes a myriad of invaders everyday (which is part of the whole process of immunizations, where the antigen is put into the memory cells).

**BurdenRobert** · 09-30-2011, 04:46 PM

That's one of the claims. The immunization schedule is fast and furious during the first two years, when the brain is still developing. Also, they have done combination vaccines, like MMR. Those used to be three separate shots. Does combining those viruses create a problem? I don't know...

You as a parent do have the right to space them out more......Demand it.

I didn't realize it when my youngest was receiving them.

**DariushPetresku** · 09-30-2011, 04:47 PM

Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer...

True. If I had a child I would be protective.

**b3JOkwXL** · 09-30-2011, 04:48 PM

I doubt that would have anything to do with it. Our immune system is beautiful and processes a myriad of invaders everyday (which is part of the whole process of immunizations, where the antigen is put into the memory cells).

Well...my two oldest never had any reaction what so ever with their immunizations, by youngest however did. She spiked a temp every time and was sick afterwards.

**aNoBVsUW** · 09-30-2011, 04:48 PM

Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer...

Congratulations, I didn't realize that you had a newborn.

**nvmrfgopyy** · 09-30-2011, 04:49 PM

Well...my two oldest never had any reaction what so ever with their immunizations, by youngest however did. She spiked a temp every time and was sick afterwards.

Hmmm. Maybe it is different for young people. I would have to look into that.

**nabsgood** · 09-30-2011, 04:52 PM

Congratulations, I didn't realize that you had a newborn.

Thanks.

**ReneCM** · 09-30-2011, 04:58 PM

Hmmm. Maybe it is different for young people. I would have to look into that.

It makes sense, they're so little and their immune systems are so immature.

**Blelidupgerie** · 09-30-2011, 08:30 PM

Feel better, Jeshu.

**vipBrooriErok** · 09-30-2011, 08:42 PM

A new baby. How exciting!

Congrats to you and your family, Jeshu.

**HaroTaure** · 09-30-2011, 08:46 PM

Oh. Right.

Congrats, dude.

**Blahhhshsh** · 09-30-2011, 08:49 PM

Congratulations on you new blessing.
Prepare yourself for a bunch of sleepless nights, but the rewards are so wonderful!

Have you selected a pediatrician yet?
Talk about your concerns with him/her.
Mine was very understanding and accommodating with the spacing and potency of the vaccines.
He would give them a tiny dose of the Pertussis vaccine to see if there was a reaction (DPT).
My kids all turned out fine.

**kranskregyan** · 09-30-2011, 08:59 PM

And the first nurse we had is telling us all about the vaccines available today for our child and ourselves, so on and so forth, and then she mentions that her grandson is autistic. A little buzzer went off in my head. Then, later, the night nurse is talking to us, and mentions that her son is autistic. That damn buzzer goes off again...

Those in the medical field and their families are probably the most highly vaccinated folks in the country. I would love to see a study done on autism rates in those families...

that would certainly be interesting..

**Metrujectiktus** · 09-30-2011, 10:48 PM

There is something going on here. Autism is clearly becoming more prevalent...

Any stats on autism in Amish families?

0.00002% or so?

**NudiJuicervich** · 09-30-2011, 10:56 PM

No, the definition has become broader. The supposed correlation between vaccines and autism is the work of conspiracy theorists and has long since been debunked.

The definition has become broader? In what sense? What used to be dismissed as 'mentally ill'...is now labeled 'autism'? Broader in that sense?

If so, I have to agree.

A link between vaccines and autism? That's different for sure. There are both sides argued. And I'm no expert on it, for sure.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/health/ne...-autism-051011
“We asked the next question and that question was: Do some of these people also have autism? We found that in 83 of the cases we were able to locate, the families report that their children have autism and symptoms of autism,” said Conte. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/index.html

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/phys...tween-mmr.page
Those who claim that MMR causes autism often cite two papers by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues. This section summarizes those studies and lists their critical flaws. Some say "YES!!!"...some say "NO!!"

????

**chuecaloversvvp** · 09-30-2011, 11:21 PM

And the first nurse we had is telling us all about the vaccines available today for our child and ourselves, so on and so forth, and then she mentions that her grandson is autistic. A little buzzer went off in my head. Then, later, the night nurse is talking to us, and mentions that her son is autistic. That damn buzzer goes off again...

Those in the medical field and their families are probably the most highly vaccinated folks in the country. I would love to see a study done on autism rates in those families...

It's been done..Deirdra Imus's pet project was soundly debunked

CONGRATS by the way

**TepSteade** · 10-01-2011, 03:49 AM

Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer...

How old? My son just turned 6 weeks yesterday.

09-30-2011, 04:43 PM	#21
simmons latex mattress Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Well, I won't. But if my new son gets autism because of them, I'm taking a fucking flamethrower to this place... He'll be fine and congratulations on your new son. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 04:44 PM	#22
LookSe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	One thing that I noticed was my two older kids (19 and 20) had their immunizations spaced out over 5 years and my 5 yo received hers in 3 years. That may be part of the problem. Too much too soon? That's one of the claims. The immunization schedule is fast and furious during the first two years, when the brain is still developing. Also, they have done combination vaccines, like MMR. Those used to be three separate shots. Does combining those viruses create a problem? I don't know... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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palantownia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	He'll be fine and congratulations on your new son. Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 04:45 PM	#24
mr.nemo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	One thing that I noticed was my two older kids (19 and 20) had their immunizations spaced out over 5 years and my 5 yo received hers in 3 years. That may be part of the problem. Too much too soon? I doubt that would have anything to do with it. Our immune system is beautiful and processes a myriad of invaders everyday (which is part of the whole process of immunizations, where the antigen is put into the memory cells). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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BurdenRobert Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	That's one of the claims. The immunization schedule is fast and furious during the first two years, when the brain is still developing. Also, they have done combination vaccines, like MMR. Those used to be three separate shots. Does combining those viruses create a problem? I don't know... You as a parent do have the right to space them out more......Demand it. I didn't realize it when my youngest was receiving them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DariushPetresku Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer... True. If I had a child I would be protective. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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b3JOkwXL Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 497 Senior Member	I doubt that would have anything to do with it. Our immune system is beautiful and processes a myriad of invaders everyday (which is part of the whole process of immunizations, where the antigen is put into the memory cells). Well...my two oldest never had any reaction what so ever with their immunizations, by youngest however did. She spiked a temp every time and was sick afterwards. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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aNoBVsUW Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer... Congratulations, I didn't realize that you had a newborn. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 04:49 PM	#29
nvmrfgopyy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Well...my two oldest never had any reaction what so ever with their immunizations, by youngest however did. She spiked a temp every time and was sick afterwards. Hmmm. Maybe it is different for young people. I would have to look into that. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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nabsgood Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	Congratulations, I didn't realize that you had a newborn. Thanks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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ReneCM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	Hmmm. Maybe it is different for young people. I would have to look into that. It makes sense, they're so little and their immune systems are so immature. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Blelidupgerie Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Feel better, Jeshu. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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vipBrooriErok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	A new baby. How exciting! Congrats to you and your family, Jeshu. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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HaroTaure Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 404 Senior Member	Oh. Right. Congrats, dude. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 08:49 PM	#35
Blahhhshsh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Congratulations on you new blessing. Prepare yourself for a bunch of sleepless nights, but the rewards are so wonderful! Have you selected a pediatrician yet? Talk about your concerns with him/her. Mine was very understanding and accommodating with the spacing and potency of the vaccines. He would give them a tiny dose of the Pertussis vaccine to see if there was a reaction (DPT). My kids all turned out fine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 08:59 PM	#36
kranskregyan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 480 Senior Member	And the first nurse we had is telling us all about the vaccines available today for our child and ourselves, so on and so forth, and then she mentions that her grandson is autistic. A little buzzer went off in my head. Then, later, the night nurse is talking to us, and mentions that her son is autistic. That damn buzzer goes off again... Those in the medical field and their families are probably the most highly vaccinated folks in the country. I would love to see a study done on autism rates in those families... that would certainly be interesting.. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 10:48 PM	#37
Metrujectiktus Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	There is something going on here. Autism is clearly becoming more prevalent... Any stats on autism in Amish families? 0.00002% or so? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 10:56 PM	#38
NudiJuicervich Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	No, the definition has become broader. The supposed correlation between vaccines and autism is the work of conspiracy theorists and has long since been debunked. The definition has become broader? In what sense? What used to be dismissed as 'mentally ill'...is now labeled 'autism'? Broader in that sense? If so, I have to agree. A link between vaccines and autism? That's different for sure. There are both sides argued. And I'm no expert on it, for sure. http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/health/ne...-autism-051011 “We asked the next question and that question was: Do some of these people also have autism? We found that in 83 of the cases we were able to locate, the families report that their children have autism and symptoms of autism,” said Conte. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/index.html http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/phys...tween-mmr.page Those who claim that MMR causes autism often cite two papers by Andrew Wakefield and colleagues. This section summarizes those studies and lists their critical flaws. Some say "YES!!!"...some say "NO!!" ???? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-30-2011, 11:21 PM	#39
chuecaloversvvp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 378 Senior Member	And the first nurse we had is telling us all about the vaccines available today for our child and ourselves, so on and so forth, and then she mentions that her grandson is autistic. A little buzzer went off in my head. Then, later, the night nurse is talking to us, and mentions that her son is autistic. That damn buzzer goes off again... Those in the medical field and their families are probably the most highly vaccinated folks in the country. I would love to see a study done on autism rates in those families... It's been done..Deirdra Imus's pet project was soundly debunked CONGRATS by the way Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-01-2011, 03:49 AM	#40
TepSteade Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Thank you and thank you. I worry more with the son than with my daughter. Girls are statistically much safer... How old? My son just turned 6 weeks yesterday. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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