[yasmin]

A British View of the 1943 Bombing of Hamburg


A British presentation, with English-language narration, of the Allied aerial assault on Hamburg in late July 1943. The British-American "Operation Gomorrah" bombings killed 42,600 civilians and wounded 37,000. It created a 1,500-foot-high tornado of fire, a firestorm. A million civilians fled the city. This was an example of Allied "area bombing," which targeted for death all Germans -- including all women and children. British prime minister Winston Churchill himself wrote in a memo of the Allied policy of "bombing of German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror."

[GWRIeEQp]

Hitler went to great lengths to explain his almost scientific perpetuation of terror, in Mein Kampf.

Fuck it. Violence begets violence. He wanted to play.

[Bromikka]

Hitler went to great lengths to explain his almost scientific perpetuation of terror, in Mein Kampf.

Fuck it. Violence begets violence. He wanted to play.

No, Hitler didn't, Roosevelt and the jews wanted to play. Forced the english into WW2. The english have always had concentration camps and genocides against other peoples. Think Boers, Indians, Chinese, Zulu, etc..

[Sillaycheg]

No, Hitler didn't, Roosevelt and the jews wanted to play. Forced the english into WW2. The english have always had concentration camps and genocides against other peoples. Think Boers, Indians, Chinese, Zulu, etc..

I know they have. But let's not paint Hitler as some lost little lamb. He knew what the fuck he was doing.

[venediene]

Philly sure does love Americas enemies, past and present. He may be more at home in North Korea.

[AnimeThat]

Hitler went to great lengths to explain his almost scientific perpetuation of terror, in Mein Kampf.

Fuck it. Violence begets violence. He wanted to play.

Hitler didn't want war with Britain, France or the US.

[Eromereorybig]

Hitler didn't want war with Britain, France or the US.

That's right. He would have preferred they just let him take over their countries.

[Bill-Watson]

That's right. He would have preferred they just let him take over their countries.

You fucking moron, he had no intention of taking over their countries. He took back the part of Poland that had been taken from Germany after WW1. The persisting myth that Hitler wanted to take over the world is just that, a fucking myth.

[Atmotteenrift]

Hitler didn't want war with Britain, France or the US.

How do you know?

[we0MA4MI]

How do you know?

By his own words and actions. I know that everyone wants to portray Hitler as the ultimate evil, but an objective look at history, without all the hype, reveals something different. I'm not saying he was a saint, because he could be quite cruel and ruthless. But, he tried to negotiate peace several times but Britain and France declared war anyways. People always say he started WW2, but the fact of the matter is that Britain and France declared war on Germany and not the other way around.

[Tainlyferfara]

You fucking moron, he had no intention of taking over their countries. He took back the part of Poland that had been taken from Germany after WW1. The persisting myth that Hitler wanted to take over the world is just that, a fucking myth.

Indeed, Hitler didn't want full control...
The control was to be divided, between Germans, Italians and Japaneese !

Before operation Sea lion was abandoned , Hitlers intentions were to subjugate the English and remove everything of value in England. Turning the English into virtual slaves was Hitlers plan.

The nazi's modus operandi was to fake diplomacy up to the point of an invasion or takeover. Then afterwards claim they exausted diplomacy first... as if it really mattered. After a while, the gig was up...

[Haibundadam]

By his own words and actions. I know that everyone wants to portray Hitler as the ultimate evil, but an objective look at history, without all the hype, reveals something different. I'm not saying he was a saint, because he could be quite cruel and ruthless. But, he tried to negotiate peace several times but Britain and France declared war anyways. People always say he started WW2, but the fact of the matter is that Britain and France declared war on Germany and not the other way around.

After he invaded Poland. He even attempted to frame Poland as the aggressor, before he poured half a million men over the border. He should have been checked at Munich, but the allied leaders capitulated.

[AndyScouchek]

After he invaded Poland. He even attempted to frame Poland as the aggressor, before he poured half a million men over the border. He should have been checked at Munich, but the allied leaders capitulated.

That part of Poland had traditionally been German territory. And it's also a little known and less discussed fact that ethnic Germans were being slaughtered by the Pols prior to Hitler's invasion. What interest could Britain and France possibly have in protecting Poland? If that were their true motives for declaring war, they'd have also declared war on the Soviet Union for invading Poland. And speaking of framing, it was the Soviets who decapitated what was left of the Polish leadership and tried to blame it on the Germans. The NKVD murdered 15,000 Polish officers, politicians and intellectuals and buried them in mass graves.

[sabbixsweraco]

That part of Poland had traditionally been German territory. And it's also a little known and less discussed fact that ethnic Germans were being slaughtered by the Pols prior to Hitler's invasion. What interest could Britain and France possibly have in protecting Poland? If that were their true motives for declaring war, they'd have also declared war on the Soviet Union for invading Poland. And speaking of framing, it was the Soviets who decapitated what was left of the Polish leadership and tried to blame it on the Germans. The NKVD murdered 15,000 Polish officers, politicians and intellectuals and buried them in mass graves.

The Russkies weren't pushing for total European domination. By implication of what you've said here, all of Europe was traditionally German territory, and were actively involved in slaughtering ethnic Germans.

He didn't stop with Czechoslovakia and Poland, Scorpio, remember.

[pymnConyelell]

You fucking moron, he had no intention of taking over their countries. He took back the part of Poland that had been taken from Germany after WW1. The persisting myth that Hitler wanted to take over the world is just that, a fucking myth.

Maybe Germany shouldn't have started the first world war. They also shouldn't have disregarded the treaty of Versailles and invaded Poland and then France. Do you really think hitlers goal was only to reestablish Germany to pre WW1 borders? Really?

[TaliaJack]

Maybe Germany shouldn't have started the first world war. They also shouldn't have disregarded the treaty of Versailles and invaded Poland and then France. Do you really think hitlers goal was only to reestablish Germany to pre WW1 borders? Really?

If it was, then his knowledge of geography was woeful.

[twiffatticy]

The Russkies weren't pushing for total European domination.

Really? Then why did they invade Poland? And why was NATO formed later on and why did we fight the cold war for over 50 years? History proves that the communists were trying to do exactly that. Sadly, the US and Britain handed millions of people over to communist rule knowing full well what their fate would be.

By implication of what you've said here, all of Europe was traditionally German territory, and were actively involved in slaughtering ethnic Germans.

He didn't stop with Czechoslovakia and Poland, Scorpio, remember.

Hitlers own words reveal that he believed the Soviets were posturing to break the non-aggression pact and invade Western Europe. Considering the massive Soviet build up, I'm not convinced that Hitler's assessment was wrong.

Like I said previously, I understand that history painted Hitler as the ultimate evil villain and everyone wants to believe it, but history was written by the victors. You have to view things within the context of those times and sift through the propaganda to have a clearer understanding. Few people are willing to do that, however, out of fear of being labeled a "Nazi".

[55Beaphable]

That part of Poland had traditionally been German territory. And it's also a little known and less discussed fact that ethnic Germans were being slaughtered by the Pols prior to Hitler's invasion. What interest could Britain and France possibly have in protecting Poland? If that were their true motives for declaring war, they'd have also declared war on the Soviet Union for invading Poland. And speaking of framing, it was the Soviets who decapitated what was left of the Polish leadership and tried to blame it on the Germans. The NKVD murdered 15,000 Polish officers, politicians and intellectuals and buried them in mass graves.

Soviet Union never agreed to what Germany did in a train car in France. Ethnic-German harrassment was largely propaganda used in both Poland and Sudetenland. Germany wanted a port. If parts of Poland being held by Germany at one point justifies Nazi aggression, then it justifies Soviet aggression as well. Poland-Lithuania was once the domain of the Russian Empire. The astonishing thing about Katyn is that it's unastonishing, considering that Stalin had already purged Red Army officers.

It could be argued that the whole bloody affair that ensued across Europe was signed into fate at the end of the first world war.

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