[gghrdfffhfyj]

Unlike previous Democratic presidents, including John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton, President Barack Obama’s base primarily lies not with the working and middle classes, who would have demanded effective job action, but with the rising power of the post-industrial castes, who have largely continued to flourish even through the current economic maelstrom.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1YDAZQAlF This is a very good article, and it applies to much of Bush's Presidency and what passes for modern Conservative "thought" as well.

Even the graphic at the top is particularly descriptive of the path Gentry Liberalism/Conservatism has taken. It's just very good.

What is also good is the use of the word "gentrified" to describe it. (Only an Urban Studies expert like Koltin would even think to use such a word)

Economic Gentrification is a very apt description for what has befallen us under Obama. (And Bush to a lesser degree) Gentrification is a process by which an urban environment is replaced and renewed by investment of the middle and upper class, but at the expense of the urban population that currently exists there. Conservatives seldom hear the term. It's almost solely used in leftist circles now. Because we think of this as development, and it is.. Because there is a an improvement.

This is similar to the way in which connected cronies and financiers have replaced our domestic economy, which served the lower strata, with their own self serving, global model which improves the lot for no one but themselves. Everyone else loses. Workers. Savers. Small business owners.. and in the end, as the liberals are (to their horror) now beginning to realize, even the government employees and institutions which rely upon those disenfranchised masses and the taxes they pay.

Large swaths of America have been gentrified right out of town.. They used to be Obama's base. They could be Perry's, or some other candidate, if they can figure out a politically palatable means to reverse this process and return prosperity to those with little capital, and labor to trade for wages.

Obama can't do it, he's been completely captured by these interests.. The man who does will be hailed as the new Ronald Reagan. He's already an American hero and doesn't even know it.

[HcMkOKiz]

I'll probably get smacked around for saying this but....It needs to be said.

**puts on tin foil hat**

Even the the die hard communists have learned to use capitalism to their benefit.

Flame away people....

[Bromymbollile]

I'll probably get smacked around for saying this but....It needs to be said.

**puts on tin foil hat**

Even the the die hard communists have learned to use capitalism to their benefit.

Flame away people....

That's true.. and they're enabled by the creatures at the top of the "capitalist" food chain.

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

That's true.. and they're enabled by the creatures at the top of the "capitalist" food chain.

Yep..who are closet commies. I'm convinced of that.

[vvxtiopmx]

There probably is no way to reverse the process under capitalism. It's a one way street, and a classic catch 22. The snowball effect. Wealth rises like warm air, and those without it have increasingly less where they're increasingly unable to stake a claim.

I also suspect that were it not for globalisation, it would be far worse, since markets exterior to domestic ones act to release the pressure by leveling the playing field by engaging outside markets. We'll see the same extent of the problem all over the world eventually, since global impetus acts to work the same way. Capitalism is the pursuit of capital, in the form of profit. It's about accumulation not dispersal. It can be no other way. That's it's nature. That's how it works. Which is why we get recessions and depressions. The bubble bursts periodically, and the process begins anew. Even worse, the cycle of boom-slump gets worse every time, and at more frequent intervals.

I don't expect this post to be popular, and I hope I'm wrong, but it is my opinion.

[doctorzlo]

There probably is no way to reverse the process under capitalism. It's a one way street, and a classic catch 22. The snowball effect. Wealth rises like warm air, and those without it have increasingly less where they're increasingly unable to stake a claim.

I also suspect that were it not for globalisation, it would be far worse, since markets exterior to domestic ones act to release the pressure by leveling the playing field by engaging outside markets. We'll see the same extent of the problem all over the world eventually, since global impetus acts to work the same way. Capitalism is the pursuit of capital, in the form of profit. It's about accumulation not dispersal. It can be no other way. That's it's nature. That's how it works. Which is why we get recessions and depressions. The bubble bursts periodically, and the process begins anew. Even worse, the cycle of boom-slump gets worse every time, and at more frequent intervals.

I don't expect this post to be popular, and I hope I'm wrong, but it is my opinion.

It's the sad truth, of course it won't be popular.
We're doomed as the commies learned to use it to their advantage.

[rhiniddibiarmr]

It's the sad truth, of course it won't be popular.
We're doomed as the commies learned to use it to their advantage.

Communism's equally fucked up, only in it's own way.

The question is, what the fuck do we do about it? If prophecy's any indicator, only the Antichrist will know how to sort this shit out. And he's bad news.

[mymnduccete]

Communism's equally fucked up, only in it's own way.

The question is, what the fuck do we do about it? If prophecy's any indicator, only the Antichrist will know how to sort this shit out. And he's bad news.

I don't see a way out of it.....

Oh lord....don't start with that assclown. As a Baptist he scares the bejeezus out of me.

[Seesspoxy]

I don't see a way out of it.....

Oh lord....don't start with that assclown. As a Baptist he scares the bejeezus out of me.

Me too actually. Especially since I believe it will all come to pass.

[daasayse]

Me too actually. Especially since I believe it will all come to pass.

When do you think it will rear it's ugly head?

[verybigf]

When do you think it will rear it's ugly head?

Probably some time during the next 20-30 years.

[AriaDesser]

Probably some time during the next 20-30 years.

I would have thought it would be sooner..........

What makes you think that we have that much time?

[dahlilaninfo]

I would have thought it would be sooner..........

What makes you think that we have that much time?

The fact that he sets foot on the global stage from obscurity, and that he inherits a world power already in existence. He doesn't build it personally. He only consolidates it beyond all attempts to dismantle it.

We don't have that at present, but it's gathering pace.

[Accecyncphory]

On second thoughts, make that 10-20 years. It probably won't take 30.

[slarceSelia]

Apologies to J_X for going off at a tangent.

[expomeHattePe]

My father always said that it would come out of the ME, what are your thoughts on that?

[GetsTan]

My father always said that it would come out of the ME, what are your thoughts on that?

I think the Antichrist's own origins will be somewhere in the west. As to what precipitates the Rapture, it may well be the ME that serves as the flashpoint. I'm mostly going on what End Times prophecy states here, but it sounds feasible. Of course it's all guesswork until it actually transpires.

[truck]

I've never really thought about it in this way, but am I the only one who see's a lot of things in common between obama and Pol Pot?

Neither spent much of their early years in their 'home' nation.
Both relied on government scholarships.
Both spent their college time with radicals.
Both drifted around the rim of communism/Marxism.
Both called themselves 'organizers'.
Both claimed 'redistributing' the nations wealth as a goal.
Both lived high lives, while acting like they were one of the 'workers'.
Both made taking over health care, and agriculture a main goal.
Both spent little time 'studying' at college, and more time hanging with Marxists.
Both had wives who were insane.

Just sayin'........

Both ended up removing themselves from the gentry.......and it didn't end well with ole PP either.

[iOqedeyH]

A quote from the readers at Opinion.
Obama's an incredibly intelligent scholar who rightly sees the direction in which a nation of intelligent cooperating people could prosper. That's why I love him. He reminds me of the Founders. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1YDl9gLgb

[c6vkuNRg]

I don't expect this post to be popular, and I hope I'm wrong, but it is my opinion.

I don't agree with parts of it, and would like to discuss it at length. (frankly, it is worthy of its own thread) But I am going to withhold comment for now.. I am curious how others feel.

The problem you will have with a post like this one is roughly the same problem that Racists have when discussing issues related to that.. Namely, reaction and thought stopping boiler plate.

I'd be most interested in reading reasoned, thoughtful responses to what you've posted here.