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Old 08-04-2011, 05:24 AM   #1
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Default Judge allows American to sue Rumsfeld over torture
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/264...logPost:538251

A federal judge has ruled that former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld can be sued personally for damages by a former U.S. military contractor who says he was tortured during a nine-month imprisonment in Iraq.
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:57 AM   #2
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Wait what? He was a contractor that was imprisoned and tortured?
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Old 08-04-2011, 05:58 AM   #3
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Yeah.. US citizen.. Never charged.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:01 AM   #4
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Fuck him. Just trying to get some cashola.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:02 AM   #5
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Fuck him. Just trying to get some cashola.
I'm not so sure...
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:02 AM   #6
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Rumsfeld is a dick.. Send him 2 gitmo.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:03 AM   #7
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Great.

Paving the way for American Muzzle'em's to sue the shit out of the gov when they get caught aiding and abetting.

(That's NOT saying that THAT particular person didn't have a justifiable claim ~
just

that it's setting the stage.)
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:06 AM   #8
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Great.

Paving the way for American Muzzle'em's to sue the shit out of the gov when they get caught aiding and abetting.

(That's NOT saying that THAT particular person didn't have a justifiable claim ~
just

that it's setting the stage.)
I can see your point, but in this case didn't he just vanish off the face of the earth for nine months?
I can't go along with that.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:07 AM   #9
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Save it for quick reference:

TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER I > § 1983.
Civil action for deprivation of rights

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:12 AM   #10
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Gee.

If only the words MEANT the words...

Unfortunately?

It's ALL up for interpretation,

and it can say whatEVER a smart lawyer WANTS it to say.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:20 AM   #11
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If you can prove in a court of law that a government agent, operating under color of law, violated any Constitutionally or legally secured right, YOU CAN SUE THAT INDIVIDUAL under the listed Title 42 statute.

And before you say, "Well, I won't get much off him."
The real purpose is to grind the offending agent mercilessly through the same oppressive system they would gleefully run you through. Give them a taste.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:28 AM   #12
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Rumsfeld should stand before the ICC in the Hague; along with Dick and Dubya.

Holder's job is to prosecute these criminals stateside, and he's complicit in their crimes by not doing so.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:40 AM   #13
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If you can prove in a court of law that a government agent, operating under color of law, violated any Constitutionally or legally secured right, YOU CAN SUE THAT INDIVIDUAL under the listed Title 42 statute.

And before you say, "Well, I won't get much off him."
The real purpose is to grind the offending agent mercilessly through the same oppressive system they would gleefully run you through. Give them a taste.
The point being?

'cuz I just have a real problem with doing ill towards others.

I'd MUCH rather get shit straightened out,
and RIGHT,

than to go after folks that are just like me,
trying to do some shit-stained job,
and get by.
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:47 AM   #14
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Unlike you, I have no love for government agents.
If THEY violate someone's rights grind them mercilessly into quivering jelly.
Just like THEY would with you.

Now, if you have THAT threat hanging over your head will you be more or less likely to callously violate someone else's rights just because you can?
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:06 AM   #15
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Well, ME?

Wouldn't.

I'm a libra, and I already KNOW that I'm "everyone,"
to some extent.

I know the shit I pulled on/did to others,
and I know the reasons I did it.

Survival is a Basic Instinct, eh?

Why,

nay, HOW?

could I fault someone for trying to survive,
in the best way they know how?

If I go down?
It might be sad,
but if it's ME,
I'll make it whatever I want it to be.

Imagine this:

Being sent to jail/prison for, say, a year.

I'd be looking to educate myself,
with whatever options were available;
I'd be glad that I finally quit smoking,
and be looking at some sort of program for losing weight,
since I'm a picky eater ROFL!!! ;
and I'd be thinking that it was sort of cool to have free housing,
free food,
free utilities,
no taxes,
...
well, a LOT of cool shit!

I'd get to READ,
as much as I wanted;
play puzzle games,
and actually have a captive audience for multi-player games;

but what I'm saying is this : It IS what it is,
and it can be whatever YOU want it to be!

But that's all of life, I've found
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:01 AM   #16
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The point being?

'cuz I just have a real problem with doing ill towards others.

I'd MUCH rather get shit straightened out,
and RIGHT,

than to go after folks that are just like me,
trying to do some shit-stained job,
and get by.
If this guy was imprisoned and tortured for nine months then I'd say he had some ILL done to him!
I can't honestly say Rummy's the one to be sued, but someone fucked up--ROYALLY!!
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:14 AM   #17
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/wa...tainee.html?hp

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Senate..._for_1211.html
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:15 AM   #18
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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/04/22/madden
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:15 AM   #19
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http://armed-services.senate.gov/Pub...022%202009.pdf
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:00 AM   #20
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I don't DO no stinking LINX, dude!

(I'm on a network,
of FOUR computers,
on SATELLITE connection,
and we sort of whittle down our Allowed Bandwidth
in a HEARTBEAT.

Could you post WORDS,
by chance?)
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