[ONLINEPHARMACYCHEAPILLS]

There's an article here from Der Spiegel.. It's about 4 pages.. but it's very interesting reading.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...769831,00.html

Basically, it showcases the problems the EU is facing all around.. and gives a voice to the affected, and explores their perspective on the EU's failure to live up to its promises..

It covers the street protests, the plight of young engineers, physicists, bartenders, etc.. and (ostensibly) attempts to discover what they want and expect from the "new" Europe. Perhaps the most shocking revelation is a few lines from one of the framers of the EU, where he asks openly: "Do Europeans even want the European Union anymore?"

It's Spiegel, so the whole thing has a sort of leftist bent... with the authors salting in suggestions here and there.. But, reading it.. You're REALLY STRUCK with the diversity of opinion across Europe. It seems that everyone knows something is wrong, but don't quite know what to do about it, or even who to attack... to the point they draw parallels to Franz Kafka's Novel "Castle"

It's also impossible not to draw parallels between their plight and our own. The fallout is the much same (Massive debt, unemployment, disaffected youth buried in debt, a general loss of hope.. Bureaucratic thumb twiddling and even more bureaucratic "solutions" Apathy. Intransigence. Greed.. Etc.)

The challenge: If you were given a brief audience with this group to address their issues.. What would you tell them to do to resolve it?

How would you fix it, and how would you sell your solution to a group as diverse as this one?

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Simply enough, remove the power base from Brussels and make it more accountable to the electorate.

As it stands, the hierarchy is both faceless and insulated from influence. Also, increase the means by which national governments may retain sovereignty over their domestic affairs. The dislike comes not so much from unification, as it being perceived as solely a private commercial enterprise, rather than one that impinges upon social phenomena.

[jaydicassdhy]

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[bmwservis]

The challenge: If you were given a brief audience with this group to address their issues.. What would you tell them to do to resolve it?

I'm not sure I'd waste my breath. Their problem is that diversity you speak of. We all know this.

Any time so many different views/races/cultures/parties are forced to accept each other, this is the minimum negative results.

Oil and water don't mix well. Neither do people of different bents.

The solution I'd try to explain to them is this " everyone go stick to your own, and let this failed experiment called 'EU' drift into history".

[sportlife]

get rid of immigrants, and dirty fuckign 3rd worlds shit skin.


Hire only White Europeans to do the work and pay them a lot of fuckign money and allow them to have many days off so they can fuck more then work and enjoy life.

[ugosanchezo]

The problem with the EU is that the same idiots who ran the radical left in the 70s in Europe are now in control of the EU parliament.

They honestly think they are doing the right thing no matter how much others say they're not.

But when you have so many ex and "neo" Marxists, what else do you expect?

[cymnPrayerm]

But when you have so many ex and "neo" Marxists, what else do you expect?

A high body count can be expected also.

Marxism has killed more people than cancer.

[Adollobdeb]

A high body count can be expected also.

Marxism has killed more people than cancer.

Yeah but I think as a percentage of people killed by an ideology or philosophy, religion is still the winner for body count to available population

[alexosnasos2]

But "religion" is only a catch all to the irreligious. Sloppy thinking on their part..

It's like saying "greed" is a huge killer..

[Precturge]

The solution is merchandising.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/...9831-2,00.html
She and her friends had announced on Facebook that they were going to hold a demonstration on March 12. Someone had come up with the idea over drinks at a bar. Sell commemorative March 12 T-shirts, coffee mugs, posters ect.

[BodoidearoLew]

But "religion" is only a catch all to the irreligious. Sloppy thinking on their part..

It's like saying "greed" is a huge killer..

The Crusades, 30 years war, the wars of islamic conquest.....

[JohnVK]

The Crusades, 30 years war, the wars of islamic conquest.....

Different beliefs.. Like Marxism and communism.

This is lost on the irreligious. They try to pigeon hole this as general purpose "religion"

It's sloppy thinking.. It's why they don't understand religion, and its importance, in the first place.

[puzobok]

Different beliefs.. Like Marxism and communism.

This is lost on the irreligious. They try to pigeon hole this as general purpose "religion"

It's sloppy thinking.. It's why they don't understand religion, and its importance, in the first place.

As a former believer, I disagree. You say those who no longer believe in a mythical power try to pigeon hole yet isn't that what you're doing here?

Religion has nothing to offer humanity, save a way to be slaves to something that doesn't exist

[hs6KnlcW]

As a former believer, I disagree. You say those who no longer believe in a mythical power try to pigeon hole yet isn't that what you're doing here?

Religion has nothing to offer humanity, save a way to be slaves to something that doesn't exist

That's not the whole story though, is it? Like any organised movement, religion is subject to the vagaries of corruption. We can include political movements also, which have also demanded wilful sacrifice and subsequent loss of life. Both World Wars commenced without religion to spur them on, so your examples are spurious. Which conflicts were ignited by religion in more recent times?

Also, like it or not, religion has traditionally served as a moral bedrock in society, and often in the face of persecution for as much. Religions also tend to express such worthy sentiments as service, compassion and forgiveness.

Your all-too handy negative slant on religion is so much egotism, and deliberate misinterpretation.

[Wrasialat]

Your all-too handy negative slant on religion is so much egotism, and deliberate misinterpretation.

And this is different from theists (put non-believers in for religion) how?

Sorry guy but I see religion making barriers where none should exist.

[Pipindula]

And this is different from theists (put non-believers in for religion) how?

Sorry guy but I see religion making barriers where none should exist.

Or dissolving them where they do.

Sure, the religious can be arrogant to the point of obnoxiousness. No argument. But even there, I'd suggest that they betray religion in behaving thus. My response was in answer to your illustrating conflicts driven by religion. The most colossal and destructive war the planet has ever known had no basis in religion. How to square this away with your contention of religion as arbiter of all evil things?

It can be plainly seen that human beings require no 'God' to treat each other abysmally.

[PaulCameron]

The challenge: If you were given a brief audience with this group to address their issues.. What would you tell them to do to resolve it?
?

Does it matter?
They wouldn't listen anyway.

[ptmQqoxw]

the break from EU will be the currency. Norway is smart not to join EU. Germany is member of EU but want to break from useing euros to trade with Russia. this will be how it begin, to have countrys use different currency but not the euros. right now Germany is very happy to help Greece so they can get many free lunch

[bmwservis]

the break from EU will be the currency. Norway is smart not to join EU. Germany is member of EU but want to break from useing euros to trade with Russia. this will be how it begin, to have countrys use different currency but not the euros. right now Germany is very happy to help Greece so they can get many free lunch

Dude, are you really listening to music, or is it a statement?

[nobodyhere]

You say those who no longer believe in a mythical power try to pigeon hole yet isn't that what you're doing here?

No.. and although this isn't the topic of the thread.. What's you're saying is Buddhism=Islam=Christianity=Other belief systems = ZOMG, killing people!

The reality is that conflating these is sloppy thinking.. A typical leftist mistake.

BTW, leftist belief systems (communism, abortion, euthanasia) have probably killed more people than religion ever will.. Abortion alone is responsible for upward for 40 million deaths in the United States..

Religion has nothing to offer humanity, save a way to be slaves to something that doesn't exist That's incorrect too.. This nation was built on Christian Principles.. Respecting the sanctity of human life and doing unto others what you would have done unto you are concepts that are ageless, and form the foundation of any society worth preserving and emulating.

Leftists have concepts like: "You are nothing but an animal, and no better than they are!" "Hey, gimmie all your stuff or I'll kill you!!" and "Hey! Let's all kill our children! And gramma!!!!"

What a laugh.

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