[thushioli]

OPEN GOOGLE EARTH AND TAKE AN AERIAL TOUR OF CHINA.


LOOK AT THEIR CITIES. LOOK AT THE VEHICLES. LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NOW TELL ME THAT ALL THAT IS BEING BUILT BY AND FOR $ 1.00-A-DAY PEASANT GIRLS IN SWEAT SHOPS.

[PrettyFifa12]

PERHAPS FREE TRADE WOULD WORK BETTER FOR US IF WE WOULD STOP WHIMPERING AND GET THE HELL UP OFF THE FLOOR AND TELL OUR "LEADERS" TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR WAY.... SO THAT WE COULD GET BACK TO THE PRODUCTIVE AND REWARDING BUSINESS OF BEING AMERICANS.

[Amoniustauns]

OPEN GOOGLE EARTH AND TAKE AN AERIAL TOUR OF CHINA.


LOOK AT THEIR CITIES. LOOK AT THE VEHICLES. LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NOW TELL ME THAT ALL THAT IS BEING BUILT BY AND FOR $ 1.00-A-DAY PEASANT GIRLS IN SWEAT SHOPS.

What's it matter? It's their infrastructure.. Their vehicles and their stuff.

We've got a problem building right here.. A big one.

That's what I'm worried about.

[soineeLom]

My impression, from Pat Buchanan's, "The Great Betrayal," was that, America's "Golden Age" was the late 19th Century and it was dominated by Republicans, who favored business and business favored, at that time, Protectionism, Closed Borders (birth rates were high then; a model Baptist preacher would have 12 kids, not 2.0) and Anti-Unionism. Democrats were the opposite: Pro-Union, Open Borders and Free Trade. Democrats gained the upper hand around 1900.

[Markdogas]

Well, sure it is, Supertard.

Even the ignorant savage can understand, "Supply and Demand."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NL7nP61-hk

[Licacivelip]

LET'S EXPORT THE EPA TO CHINA.

[Usogwdkb]

The West has now become the new ComBloc, adopting hardcore marxist/stalinist based ideologies, economic mismanagement/criminality, fake royal families infecting the apparatus of the state and fighting pointless wars against 3rd world nations and peoples in the name of 'democracy'.
Afghanistan was the downfall of the soviets.....could it be the same for the west?

Karl marx was nothing more than a blackmailer trying to shake down the establishment for easy cash by threatening to release the 'i can have it all' virus to base criminally minded people.
Born rich and squandered it all but still expected to live the lifestyle, sounds like Gen-Y

[swissloveone]

I think it comes down to what produces wealth. Do a lot of people sitting around, pushing paper really produce wealth? It is hard to see how that could really be true. Does a paper mill produce something? Yes, paper!

Wealth is created by the mind. Period.

[bubbachew14]

I'm no fan of Marxism, or Marx himself.. But I also know that it's almost always a mistake to dismiss men of tremendous influence out of hand. People who achieve greatness are always worthy of study. Even if the lessons we learn are what NOT TO DO.

It's a mistake with Hitler, Reagan (The left simply dismisses him, his ideas and his influence) Trotsky, Stalin, etc, etc. .

In this context, I would like to ask you about something Marx wrote.

(Paraphrasing) He drew parallels between industries and how they would fare in the aggregate under various economic circumstances.. For example, how a particular action might disparately affect renters, farmers, importers, workers and manufactures.

The trend now is to educate-educate-educate. Educate yourself out of the lower economic strata and into the upper... Because, as everyone knows, the lower rung is forced to compete with a nearly infinite supply of "workers" (I hate that word, btw) from countries with a standard of living much lower than our own. Which, given even similar rates of productivity, is impossible.

Now again, conventional wisdom says if you educate yourself out of this class and into a higher one, that you will avoid any negative repercussions from this... and you will reap the benefits of cheap goods from abroad. So you win.

However, based on some of his writings, Marx might well claim that this will have a negative effect on the upper classes as well.. as they become smaller, more crowded and less exclusive, pulling down wages and opportunities down for everyone.

Because, after all.. Not everyone can be a professor. If everyone were, it would pay nothing at all and essentially mirror the same problem faced by the lower economic classes - Unlimited competition for an ever dwindling number of jobs. Basically, a lack of scarcity.

Was he correct in this and to what extent?

And why?

Also: Are you aware of his position on Free Trade and why he took it?

I've said many times that I believe Marx to be a genius. Only a few have lived up to his level of thought over the centuries. I also disagree with him on nearly everything.

As far as I know, Marx welcomed free trade, because he believed it would hasten the collapse of capitalism. So, this being my understanding of Marx's stance, I shall vote no. I think he was dead wrong.

[famosetroie]

When advertisers tempt people into poor health habits and a whole industry sprouts up around pushing bogus health bettering goods on them and the medical industry responds by selling them as much pills and surgeries as they can justify to an insurance company or get them to pay for out of thier own pocket, instead of teaching them, just as aggressively, good health habits, it would seem like that makes America weaker, not stronger. So, in that regard, "The Free Market," seems not just like a failure, but a monster.

Teach thyself. You are not a victim.

[AdobeCreativeSuite]

the rich can not be supported with a poor class.

It is the working people that do everything. If they suffer the whole nation suffers.

Most "workers" can't accomplish anything until someone tells them what to do. And even then, few do it well.

[Pelefaifs]

Even the ignorant savage can understand, "Supply and Demand."

It has nothing to do with your conception of supply and demand. Whenever we spend a dollar on a foreign good, that country has to spend exactly one dollar in our country. That is exactly how it works, it has never been different, it never will be different.

It is absolutely impossible to lose anything by importing foreign goods. Period. You can only gain by it. Pretty neat, huh?

[NEWyear]

Teach thyself. You are not a victim.

You seem incompetent. If somebody takes advantage of your ignorance, to sell you stuff that you don't need and will probably hurt you, you are a victim of their greed.

[giftplas]

It has nothing to do with your conception of supply and demand. Whenever we spend a dollar on a foreign good, that country has to spend exactly one dollar in our country. That is exactly how it works, it has never been different, it never will be different.

It is absolutely impossible to lose anything by importing foreign goods. Period. You can only gain by it. Pretty neat, huh?

Again, you seem incompetent. U.S. Trade Deficit has been enormous.

[Wr8dIAUk]

You seem incompetent. If somebody takes advantage of your ignorance, to sell you stuff that you don't need and will probably hurt you, you are a victim of their greed.

I am not ignorant. If you are a victim at all, it is as a victim of your own stupidity and lack of self-control.

[crestorinfo]

Most "workers" can't accomplish anything until someone tells them what to do. And even then, few do it well.

You seem disrespectful.

[RealCHEAPsoftDOWNLOAD]

Again, you seem incompetent. U.S. Trade Deficit has been enormous.

There is no such thing. Common mistake.

[Salliter]

Wealth is created by the mind. Period.

Yeah, well see if that gets your ass wiped, when you're in hospital.

[ovH9wfSJ]

Yeah, well see if that gets your ass wiped, when you're in hospital.

Can't build a hospital without the mind. Can't invent medicines or the art of surgery through brute force. Animals don't use their minds to create wealth. They don't have doctors, either.

[thierabess]

Can't build a hospital without the mind. Can't invent medicines or the art of surgery through brute force. Animals don't use their minds to create wealth. They don't have doctors, either.

You seem to want to denegrate the purpose of one part of the body.