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**Ifroham4** · 02-05-2010, 12:09 AM

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Conforming to Devotee's SELF-ASSIGNED Faith, Self-centred Perception...

...Mindset, Propensities, Imagination, Will and LOFTY WISHES.!

....although CONTRADICTORY amongst themselves.!!!

Originally Posted by podalangai Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN I am really sorry to say this, this is nothing but fanatism from vaishnavites, as Far as I know sankaracharya does not refer to the supreme being as 'naryayna'.

He does, at several places, as 'Narayana', 'Vishnu' or 'Hari'.

.... All this makes perfect sense if you understand what Adi Shankaracharya was trying to do
Podalangai sir,

I know he mentiones about Narayana, and all other names of God, but as Far as I know he does not refer naryana as 'Supreme being' he refers the supreme being as 'Parama Shiva' as far as I know
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[/html:18b6fcc1a2] First of all, I am unable to understand...

..why this UNNECESSARY discussion...

....amongst WE, THE FOLLOWERS...

....on who is the PARAMATHMA .... SUPREME GOD....

....the Omnipotent ONE SUPER-COMMANDER over all other Gods.

Hinduism is the only Religion which renders ample Freedom and Liberty to worship and believe any Vedic God as the Supreme, at the devotees own choice... and WILL.

Yes. If a Saivite believes Lord Siva as the Supreme God / Paramathma... he / she is at Liberty to believe and worship so.

Similarly a Shaaktha believes Shakthi or Kali as the Supreme Paramathma, he / she can worship and chant accordingly....

...and parallelly the other Sectarians amongst the Six Sects... created by One Paramaathma Narayana...

..as Various Elementary paths towards One Common Goal...

...by Sauram, Gaanapathyam, Kaumaram, Saivam, Saaktham and SWAABHAAVIKAM.

The Supreme God created for the convenience of Mosaic form of Humanity...

....seeking PRIVATE Options at the devotees own choice..

...similar to various sorts of Food as Options.... while all of them render the same nutritions in different forms and Ingredients.

Accordingly various Puranas... other than the common 18 Puranas... depict different Gods' Greatness... CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER...

..such as Muruga the Supreme... the Guru for Siva....

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...Ganesa the Prime God who created other Gods...

...Vishnu and Brahma searched for the Head and Feet of Siva and failed by Adi-mudi Kaanhaa padalam (as portrayed by Nayanmars)....

..Shakthi Parvathi was defeated by Nataraja, Siva...

...Shakthi maatha is the Supreme creator Ruler over Vishnu Siva and other Gods...

..who as Kali, defeated Lord Siva...

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[/html:18b6fcc1a2]. ...and so on.

...to suit the specific sectarian's SELF-CENTRED WISHES... although they are the VARIOUS FALSE BELIEFS...

...since Not True... conforming to Vedas.

So to mean... all these Six Sects are the various IMAGINARY FAITHS... as the tributary Feeder-paths....

....towards the ULTIMATE ONE COMMON MAIN PATH ....VAISHNAWAM....

....as clearly declared by Vedas.

The most interesting part of Vedic Religion Hinduism is... that it renders as the Sixth Option named as... SWAABHAAVIKAM...

By which the devotee can worship any Doll, Tree, Mountain, River or ANY OBJECT of his own making too.... as God... if he can believe it so.

In such a case, the Supreme God enters into that Object and renders His Grace...

...making the Devotees Faith as True... even though a False belief.

Vedas categorically assert that the Supreme Lord Paramathma is Narayana only...

....and Narayana only the PARAMESWARA in different forms and Names.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Krishna Chaithanya, Thukaram as well as even the German Scholar Dr Max Muller... have further clarified that Truth... in ONE VOICE.

Sankaracharya too... has clearly asserted such a Vedic Truth as Narayana is the ONLY PARAMATHMA.

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We can observe in Kerala Temples... even now-a-days...

...the devotees chant ACHA NARAYANA (Oh Father Narayana)... while entering Siva Temples ... and...

...AMMAE NARAYANA (Oh Mother Narayana)... while entering Shakthi temples...

...even if there may be NO SANNIDHI in those Temples... for GOD NARAYANA.!

That is the traditional custom laid down by Adhi Sankaracharya...

...to ELIMINATE ANY PROBABLE CONFUSIONS.... in the minds of Devotees on the ONLY Paramathma NARAYANA... as per Vedas...

...who bestows grace through different Gods, Forms and Names as per individuals choice and wishes.!

Vedic Religion Hinduism is extolled by Dr. Annie Besant, Dr Max Muller and several other International Scholars too...

....as the Great Religion... UNPARALLEL IN THE WORLD...

...mainly because of such WIDE OPTIONS... provided to cater to the varied individual devotees tastes and choices...

..conforming to the Devotee's own self-assigned Faith, Imagination and LOFTY WISHES.!

....although CONTRADICTORY amongst themselves.!!!
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02-05-2010, 12:09 AM	#20
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	. Conforming to Devotee's SELF-ASSIGNED Faith, Self-centred Perception... ...Mindset, Propensities, Imagination, Will and LOFTY WISHES.! ....although CONTRADICTORY amongst themselves.!!! Originally Posted by podalangai Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN I am really sorry to say this, this is nothing but fanatism from vaishnavites, as Far as I know sankaracharya does not refer to the supreme being as 'naryayna'. He does, at several places, as 'Narayana', 'Vishnu' or 'Hari'. .... All this makes perfect sense if you understand what Adi Shankaracharya was trying to do Podalangai sir, I know he mentiones about Narayana, and all other names of God, but as Far as I know he does not refer naryana as 'Supreme being' he refers the supreme being as 'Parama Shiva' as far as I know [html:18b6fcc1a2] [/html:18b6fcc1a2] First of all, I am unable to understand... ..why this UNNECESSARY discussion... ....amongst WE, THE FOLLOWERS... ....on who is the PARAMATHMA .... SUPREME GOD.... ....the Omnipotent ONE SUPER-COMMANDER over all other Gods. Hinduism is the only Religion which renders ample Freedom and Liberty to worship and believe any Vedic God as the Supreme, at the devotees own choice... and WILL. Yes. If a Saivite believes Lord Siva as the Supreme God / Paramathma... he / she is at Liberty to believe and worship so. Similarly a Shaaktha believes Shakthi or Kali as the Supreme Paramathma, he / she can worship and chant accordingly.... ...and parallelly the other Sectarians amongst the Six Sects... created by One Paramaathma Narayana... ..as Various Elementary paths towards One Common Goal... ...by Sauram, Gaanapathyam, Kaumaram, Saivam, Saaktham and SWAABHAAVIKAM. The Supreme God created for the convenience of Mosaic form of Humanity... ....seeking PRIVATE Options at the devotees own choice.. ...similar to various sorts of Food as Options.... while all of them render the same nutritions in different forms and Ingredients. Accordingly various Puranas... other than the common 18 Puranas... depict different Gods' Greatness... CONTRADICTING EACH OTHER... ..such as Muruga the Supreme... the Guru for Siva.... [html:18b6fcc1a2] [/html:18b6fcc1a2] ...Ganesa the Prime God who created other Gods... ...Vishnu and Brahma searched for the Head and Feet of Siva and failed by Adi-mudi Kaanhaa padalam (as portrayed by Nayanmars).... ..Shakthi Parvathi was defeated by Nataraja, Siva... ...Shakthi maatha is the Supreme creator Ruler over Vishnu Siva and other Gods... ..who as Kali, defeated Lord Siva... [html:18b6fcc1a2] [/html:18b6fcc1a2]. ...and so on. ...to suit the specific sectarian's SELF-CENTRED WISHES... although they are the VARIOUS FALSE BELIEFS... ...since Not True... conforming to Vedas. So to mean... all these Six Sects are the various IMAGINARY FAITHS... as the tributary Feeder-paths.... ....towards the ULTIMATE ONE COMMON MAIN PATH ....VAISHNAWAM.... ....as clearly declared by Vedas. The most interesting part of Vedic Religion Hinduism is... that it renders as the Sixth Option named as... SWAABHAAVIKAM... By which the devotee can worship any Doll, Tree, Mountain, River or ANY OBJECT of his own making too.... as God... if he can believe it so. In such a case, the Supreme God enters into that Object and renders His Grace... ...making the Devotees Faith as True... even though a False belief. Vedas categorically assert that the Supreme Lord Paramathma is Narayana only... ....and Narayana only the PARAMESWARA in different forms and Names. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Krishna Chaithanya, Thukaram as well as even the German Scholar Dr Max Muller... have further clarified that Truth... in ONE VOICE. Sankaracharya too... has clearly asserted such a Vedic Truth as Narayana is the ONLY PARAMATHMA. [html:18b6fcc1a2] [/html:18b6fcc1a2] We can observe in Kerala Temples... even now-a-days... ...the devotees chant ACHA NARAYANA (Oh Father Narayana)... while entering Siva Temples ... and... ...AMMAE NARAYANA (Oh Mother Narayana)... while entering Shakthi temples... ...even if there may be NO SANNIDHI in those Temples... for GOD NARAYANA.! That is the traditional custom laid down by Adhi Sankaracharya... ...to ELIMINATE ANY PROBABLE CONFUSIONS.... in the minds of Devotees on the ONLY Paramathma NARAYANA... as per Vedas... ...who bestows grace through different Gods, Forms and Names as per individuals choice and wishes.! Vedic Religion Hinduism is extolled by Dr. Annie Besant, Dr Max Muller and several other International Scholars too... ....as the Great Religion... UNPARALLEL IN THE WORLD... ...mainly because of such WIDE OPTIONS... provided to cater to the varied individual devotees tastes and choices... ..conforming to the Devotee's own self-assigned Faith, Imagination and LOFTY WISHES.! ....although CONTRADICTORY amongst themselves.!!! .
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