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**Peptobismol** · 04-04-2006, 11:32 PM

The vedas have 6 angas, namely 1)Siksha 2) Vyakarana 3) Chandas 4) Jyotisha 5) Nirukta and 6) Kalpa.

Siksha explains the proper pronunciations of the Vedas,

Vyakarana explains the grammar of the Vedic words

Chandas explains the metres of the various Riks and accoustic science assosiated with this.

Jyotisha delas with Universe and the movement of planets and stars around us. Even in Jyotisha, there are 2 parts(which is not in to the focus of the subject)

Nirukta contains the Sootras or formula for word formation or mantra formation.

Kalpa describes the proper method of performing the various ritual mentioned in the Vedas and its practical application with clear cut riders.

Vedas should be learnt in this above mentioned way and not from websites or from McCauley's system of education.

That McCauley sure knew how to enter any discussion on modern education in India!!

There is a fundamental difference in the way we perceive the vedas. You have put it upon a pedestal and even follow laid out rules to read them. I see them as just another collection of books. If I will ever rever the vedas as much as you do depends on what I find in them. A translation is good enough for that, because I go by their meaning.

Maybe, sanskrit is sweet to the ears and the nuances of the vedic hymns can be better understood through a formal course in sanskrit. But that is beyond the point here. Learning Ancient Greek is a sure way of enjoying the finer aspects of Homer's Iliad, but a good translation is enough to know if it deserves the respect it gets.

So the mantras that you hear and you mention as useless or "not suitable for today's life is just a small drop of an ocean.

Well, can't say anything on that. We disagree on our basic approach to the vedas. I still go by the translation. Upanishads - I will take them up sometime.

There are things around us very far beyond our imagination and just ridiculing something without even knowing what it is just childishness. I dont say, Thriukkural or Aathi Chuvadi is inferior or superiour....I respect both Vedas and these Thamizh scripts for I know, both have tremendous amt of good things in it.

I don't mean to start a fight here on what is better. I am still learning. If someone can quote, from a translation, the good aspects (that must be in a overwhelming majority) of the vedas, I am willing to buy the referred translation and see for myself. Maybe my attitude to vedas will change after that. But for now, what is see is not pleasant.

04-04-2006, 11:32 PM	#18
Peptobismol Join Date Oct 2005 Age 59 Posts 4,386 Senior Member	The vedas have 6 angas, namely 1)Siksha 2) Vyakarana 3) Chandas 4) Jyotisha 5) Nirukta and 6) Kalpa. Siksha explains the proper pronunciations of the Vedas, Vyakarana explains the grammar of the Vedic words Chandas explains the metres of the various Riks and accoustic science assosiated with this. Jyotisha delas with Universe and the movement of planets and stars around us. Even in Jyotisha, there are 2 parts(which is not in to the focus of the subject) Nirukta contains the Sootras or formula for word formation or mantra formation. Kalpa describes the proper method of performing the various ritual mentioned in the Vedas and its practical application with clear cut riders. Vedas should be learnt in this above mentioned way and not from websites or from McCauley's system of education. That McCauley sure knew how to enter any discussion on modern education in India!! There is a fundamental difference in the way we perceive the vedas. You have put it upon a pedestal and even follow laid out rules to read them. I see them as just another collection of books. If I will ever rever the vedas as much as you do depends on what I find in them. A translation is good enough for that, because I go by their meaning. Maybe, sanskrit is sweet to the ears and the nuances of the vedic hymns can be better understood through a formal course in sanskrit. But that is beyond the point here. Learning Ancient Greek is a sure way of enjoying the finer aspects of Homer's Iliad, but a good translation is enough to know if it deserves the respect it gets. So the mantras that you hear and you mention as useless or "not suitable for today's life is just a small drop of an ocean. Well, can't say anything on that. We disagree on our basic approach to the vedas. I still go by the translation. Upanishads - I will take them up sometime. There are things around us very far beyond our imagination and just ridiculing something without even knowing what it is just childishness. I dont say, Thriukkural or Aathi Chuvadi is inferior or superiour....I respect both Vedas and these Thamizh scripts for I know, both have tremendous amt of good things in it. I don't mean to start a fight here on what is better. I am still learning. If someone can quote, from a translation, the good aspects (that must be in a overwhelming majority) of the vedas, I am willing to buy the referred translation and see for myself. Maybe my attitude to vedas will change after that. But for now, what is see is not pleasant.
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