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**adsexpist** · 07-10-2012, 10:22 AM

First, just because Obama says that he's "going to set it up anyways", doesn't mean that he can or will. He's welcome to try to that with Texas, good luck with that.

Can Texans not trade on the NYSE? I fail to see how Texas can stop an exchange from being set up.

Second, If the policy was a winner, Obama wouldn't have to cram it down our throat. With Texas defying the law and 6 others doing the same, if they get to 35 states, what Obama wants and what the supreme court wants no longer matters. It's a bit more complicated than that. First of all, Texas isn't really defying the law, just passing the responsibility for the exchange to the feds. Second, defying this small clause of the law is a long ways from supporting an ammendment (which you seem to be hinting at for reasons that are beyond me... all they need is legislation to overturn it.) In any case, 6 is a long way from 35.

Does Obama really want the spectacle of arresting people in Texas federally for defying the penalty? Is he willing to override the local authorities in order to have the feds pick people up? Texans and people in Texas get picked up by Feds and prosecuted in Federal courts all the time. As for spectacles, unless there's some anti-Obamacare cult holed up in a compound the ATF (or the Bureau of Making Uninsured Peoples Pay) sets fire to, it doesn't seem like it would even register.

Not at all. None of Obamacare can be enforced without the exchanges. Which will exist anyways.

This is very much about liberty. People should not be forced to pay a tax just for breathing. I'm an opponent of Obamacare in general... but having the Feds set up the exchange instead of doing it yourself doesn't seem to accomplish anything other than perhaps saving some money and giving up some control.

07-10-2012, 10:22 AM	#11
adsexpist Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 339 Senior Member	First, just because Obama says that he's "going to set it up anyways", doesn't mean that he can or will. He's welcome to try to that with Texas, good luck with that. Can Texans not trade on the NYSE? I fail to see how Texas can stop an exchange from being set up. Second, If the policy was a winner, Obama wouldn't have to cram it down our throat. With Texas defying the law and 6 others doing the same, if they get to 35 states, what Obama wants and what the supreme court wants no longer matters. It's a bit more complicated than that. First of all, Texas isn't really defying the law, just passing the responsibility for the exchange to the feds. Second, defying this small clause of the law is a long ways from supporting an ammendment (which you seem to be hinting at for reasons that are beyond me... all they need is legislation to overturn it.) In any case, 6 is a long way from 35. Does Obama really want the spectacle of arresting people in Texas federally for defying the penalty? Is he willing to override the local authorities in order to have the feds pick people up? Texans and people in Texas get picked up by Feds and prosecuted in Federal courts all the time. As for spectacles, unless there's some anti-Obamacare cult holed up in a compound the ATF (or the Bureau of Making Uninsured Peoples Pay) sets fire to, it doesn't seem like it would even register. Not at all. None of Obamacare can be enforced without the exchanges. Which will exist anyways. This is very much about liberty. People should not be forced to pay a tax just for breathing. I'm an opponent of Obamacare in general... but having the Feds set up the exchange instead of doing it yourself doesn't seem to accomplish anything other than perhaps saving some money and giving up some control.
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