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**tgs** · 09-22-2012, 02:11 AM

You are being naive. The swastika that represents "osher ve osher" usually turns left, not right. Also, people nowadays know exactly when to use what symbol for what message. Are you really gonna tell me the person in Hadar, Israel, sprayed Swastikas there to spread the love of Hinduism? All those Swastikas on German public bathrooms and Jewish graveyards?
Hardly anyone nowadays thinks "Aaaw, Hinduism/Buddhism!" when they see a Swastika. Certainly anyone outside of India, Japan, and some other countries of that region.

And you really think 8-year-old German kids spraying Swastikas on the door of their least favorite teacher, are spreading the love of Buddhism? I was one of them, and we shouted "Hitler-child" and "Jew swine!". We didn't grasp the horrors of the Holocaust, didn't even know who against who, but we knew it was something very, very bad. If we hadn't known, we wouldn't have done it, because nowadays people spray Swastikas to say "I hate you".

The meaning - or the commonly attributed meaning - of symbols can change through time, and the time where the Swastika was, in the eye of the Western and Middle-Eastern populace, the symbol of sunshine and wealth, ended in 1933. Just as a skull with crossbones nowaday can denote even harmless, humorous rebellion, rather than murdering, raping pirates, the most commonly associated meaning of the Swastika, is a sign of hatred of some form, usually against Jews or Zionism, but also homosexuals, gypsies, black people, immigrants, etc.

You cannot, by the way, even wear a left-facing Swastika in Germany nowadays without being arrested; in most countries people would frown because guess what - 90% of the world's population will think "Nazi", not "Hotoke-sama", no matter what way the thing faces. I know because I have an idol in Japan, his name is Yosuke Kubozuka, also known as Manji Line. Manji = left-facing Swastika. To show my enthusiasm, I bought left-facing Swastika necklaces in Japan, but upon my return to Belgium, I soon realized I should be a bit less obvious of a fan...

I'm not taking anything personally; I'm judging from the perspective of the populace and the populace think Nazi, not Buddha.

09-22-2012, 02:11 AM	#8
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	You are being naive. The swastika that represents "osher ve osher" usually turns left, not right. Also, people nowadays know exactly when to use what symbol for what message. Are you really gonna tell me the person in Hadar, Israel, sprayed Swastikas there to spread the love of Hinduism? All those Swastikas on German public bathrooms and Jewish graveyards? Hardly anyone nowadays thinks "Aaaw, Hinduism/Buddhism!" when they see a Swastika. Certainly anyone outside of India, Japan, and some other countries of that region. And you really think 8-year-old German kids spraying Swastikas on the door of their least favorite teacher, are spreading the love of Buddhism? I was one of them, and we shouted "Hitler-child" and "Jew swine!". We didn't grasp the horrors of the Holocaust, didn't even know who against who, but we knew it was something very, very bad. If we hadn't known, we wouldn't have done it, because nowadays people spray Swastikas to say "I hate you". The meaning - or the commonly attributed meaning - of symbols can change through time, and the time where the Swastika was, in the eye of the Western and Middle-Eastern populace, the symbol of sunshine and wealth, ended in 1933. Just as a skull with crossbones nowaday can denote even harmless, humorous rebellion, rather than murdering, raping pirates, the most commonly associated meaning of the Swastika, is a sign of hatred of some form, usually against Jews or Zionism, but also homosexuals, gypsies, black people, immigrants, etc. You cannot, by the way, even wear a left-facing Swastika in Germany nowadays without being arrested; in most countries people would frown because guess what - 90% of the world's population will think "Nazi", not "Hotoke-sama", no matter what way the thing faces. I know because I have an idol in Japan, his name is Yosuke Kubozuka, also known as Manji Line. Manji = left-facing Swastika. To show my enthusiasm, I bought left-facing Swastika necklaces in Japan, but upon my return to Belgium, I soon realized I should be a bit less obvious of a fan... I'm not taking anything personally; I'm judging from the perspective of the populace and the populace think Nazi, not Buddha.
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