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**Slonopotam845** · 01-16-2012, 01:31 PM

You're right, Ziggy. You and I are probably not going to agree. Your parsed quotes did not convince me that Michelle hates America. Complaining about what needs to be fixed is not an expression of hatred towards the country.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all

Also, I have no doubt we have vastly differing definitions of what constitutes a Socialist.

But I am confident that after Obama is reelected in November (and he will be) that he will prove you and Mediocrates wrong by continuing to support Israel and work for peace in the Middle East.

You can't prove us wrong, Pleeplus, only Obama can attempt it... but I have little hope. Not to say I hope he succeeds but I stand by my viewpoint is not pro-Israel/Jew.
I am going to comment on Canada is a SOCIALIST-democracy from another thread... Canada is a Socialist-DEMOCRACY. We are far from being like those on the Euro continent, including the woeful UK. Yes, we have universal healthcare but our social safety net does not differ much from the U.S.'s. I hold no problem helping those in need but not the self-entitled collectivists whose anthem is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME.
Presently our government is a conservative majority. Ironically, the heavily populated Jewish area where I live voted conservative... tossing out the 38 year incumbent. Why? It finally dawned on us, that the conservatives (akin to your Republican Party) are stalwart supporters of Israel. This to the chagrin of the two left-wing parties who played hot potato when it came to Israel.
I tink we can agree on one thing, Pleeplus... we both love Israel and support it fully, no matter the differences in our political bent.

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Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	You're right, Ziggy. You and I are probably not going to agree. Your parsed quotes did not convince me that Michelle hates America. Complaining about what needs to be fixed is not an expression of hatred towards the country. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...urrentPage=all Also, I have no doubt we have vastly differing definitions of what constitutes a Socialist. But I am confident that after Obama is reelected in November (and he will be) that he will prove you and Mediocrates wrong by continuing to support Israel and work for peace in the Middle East. You can't prove us wrong, Pleeplus, only Obama can attempt it... but I have little hope. Not to say I hope he succeeds but I stand by my viewpoint is not pro-Israel/Jew. I am going to comment on Canada is a SOCIALIST-democracy from another thread... Canada is a Socialist-DEMOCRACY. We are far from being like those on the Euro continent, including the woeful UK. Yes, we have universal healthcare but our social safety net does not differ much from the U.S.'s. I hold no problem helping those in need but not the self-entitled collectivists whose anthem is GIMME, GIMME, GIMME. Presently our government is a conservative majority. Ironically, the heavily populated Jewish area where I live voted conservative... tossing out the 38 year incumbent. Why? It finally dawned on us, that the conservatives (akin to your Republican Party) are stalwart supporters of Israel. This to the chagrin of the two left-wing parties who played hot potato when it came to Israel. I tink we can agree on one thing, Pleeplus... we both love Israel and support it fully, no matter the differences in our political bent.
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