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Old 09-11-2012, 07:47 PM   #19
Nupbeaupeteew

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I'm really struggling with the BWB server. It keeps telling me it’s too busy so I have to keep my posts small. I'm also boxed in without my normal supply of resources here in China so please bear with me.

Your piece also talks about the pain and grief elements. In other words the word 'element' doesn't say much on its own.

The unconditioned is just the natural state of affairs without the illusions of the conditioned. The conditioned idea that stuff has inherent existence, namely independence, in the form of 'Self' or another entity like a conventional self or a separate outside world is the root cause of the conditioned. The conditioned does not affect the unconditioned because the unconditioned is just the natural normal healthy state of everyday life without the perversions of the conditioned. The body gets older, things still change, the wind blows, the rain falls, the seasons come and go but the pain of the conditioned is gone and there is no-one that will be born again because there was in the first place no one that was born. The only thing that was born was the ILLUSION of SELF with many former lives. Emptiness of conditioned phenomenon is required including the conditioned phenomenon of Nirvana. Unconditioned Nirvana is just the natural non-dualistic empty truth.

I feel Deshy is trying to say that not any philosophical thought can explain any part of Buddhism and it’s just not true. Philosophical thought is just much more limited and I see it as just very big words trying to explain what is already known as Sunatta.

Maybe this will be a good read. http://www.dhammatalks.net/Books2/Bh...the_Buddha.pdf

The ‘Aery fairy’ stuff is just gone.
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