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I removed this post as it did not make sense.

thanks Ngagpa. but i saw no need to remove any posts

to me, the following translations seem rather jargonistic (compared to those about feeling, perception & consciousness, which seem very straightforward)

i think the disparity between the translations shows the teaching does not transmit well from language to language

i think we need to attempt to put the verses into our own plain english so it reads plainly & can assist understanding what sankhara khanda actually does when it functions



"And why do you call them 'fabrications'? Because they fabricate fabricated things, thus they are called 'fabrications.' What do they fabricate as a fabricated thing? For the sake of form-ness, they fabricate form as a fabricated thing. For the sake of feeling-ness, they fabricate feeling as a fabricated thing. For the sake of perception-hood... For the sake of fabrication-hood... For the sake of consciousness-hood, they fabricate consciousness as a fabricated thing. Because they fabricate fabricated things, they are called fabrications.

Thanissaro Bhikkhu alternate translation:

Bhikkhus, why do they speak of sankhara? Bhikkhus, this nature naturally concocts concocted things (abhisankharonti), for this reason it is called "sankhara." What does it concoct? It concocts rupa as something concocted with "formness," it concocts vedana as something concocted with "feelingness," it concocts sanya as something concocted with "recognition-ness," it concocts sankhara as something concocted with "concoctingness," it concocts vinyana as something concocted with "cognition-ness." Bhikkhus, this nature naturally concocts concocted things, for this reason it is called "sankhara."

Buddhadasa Bhikkhu alternate translation:

Why do you call them volitional formations? They construct the conditioned, therefore they are called volitonal formations. And what is the conditioned that they construct? They construct conditioned form as form; they construct condition feeling as feeling; they construct conditioned perception as perception; the construct conditioned volitional formations as volitional formations; they construct conditioned consciousness as consciousness. They construct the conditioned, therefore they are called volitonal formations.

Bhikkhu Bodhi