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**hhynmtrxcp** · 08-21-2012, 02:56 AM

From what I've read in Chogyam Trungpa "Bardo", Gods are spiritualy speaking lower than humans, because their minds are blinded by feelings of opulence and strong pleasures. Trungpa says when gods are dying, their mind always fall from the feeling of having a glorious existence to the feeling of loosing everything and this tremendous fall explains why they reincarnate in lower realms like animals or worse. Have you ever heard of some rare cases where gods reborn in human realms? Can a god beneficiate from a karmic blessing they had before they became god that helps them find a human form?

Buddha held both the human realm & God realm are OK, as follows:

Few are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn among human beings. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts.

In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn among devas. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts.

In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn among devas. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts.

In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn among human beings. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts.

SN 56.102-113 However, for the most part, the human realm is considered the best for enlightenment because it is the realm of renunciation.

08-21-2012, 02:56 AM	#3
hhynmtrxcp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	From what I've read in Chogyam Trungpa "Bardo", Gods are spiritualy speaking lower than humans, because their minds are blinded by feelings of opulence and strong pleasures. Trungpa says when gods are dying, their mind always fall from the feeling of having a glorious existence to the feeling of loosing everything and this tremendous fall explains why they reincarnate in lower realms like animals or worse. Have you ever heard of some rare cases where gods reborn in human realms? Can a god beneficiate from a karmic blessing they had before they became god that helps them find a human form? Buddha held both the human realm & God realm are OK, as follows: Few are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn among human beings. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts. In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn among devas. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the human realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts. In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn among devas. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts. In the same way, monks, few are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn among human beings. Far more are the beings who, on passing away from the deva realm, are reborn in hell... in the animal womb... in the domain of the hungry ghosts. SN 56.102-113 However, for the most part, the human realm is considered the best for enlightenment because it is the realm of renunciation.
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