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**Dndjzirw** · 06-19-2012, 04:54 AM

if someone has an experience in life, glimpsing something rarely seen by others.

sounds like this person is very alone & under a strong weight of burden/pressure because others have seen these rare things but the painter does not know that. it can be difficult to teach such a person because they believe they are more special than others. even if Buddha came to them, they would not listen

so they paint a picture of the flower, the best way they can. but this person is not an artist yes, this is a very clear metaphor. this person is not an artist, just as this person is not enlightened. they are not grounded. they are like a lost sheep that believes they are a shephard, ready to lead a flock. athough there may be a glimpse of a liberated state, the inability to reconcile & accommodate the experience within the greater reality is a salient characteristic of an immature state.

for such lost sheep, the Zen masters teach: "If you meet the Buddha on the road [i.e., believe 'you' are Buddha], then kill him".

in fact this artists painting causes great suffering to most who look at it. my impression is the painting is causing great suffering to the artist. the artist feels they have secret knowledge, that their accomplishment is rare, that they have an important message for mankind & are an important messenger. they feel they have any "inner need" to share this experience. this "need" is simply lust & confusion. they only see the beauty of their own reflection in a mirror but do not see the other to wish they wish to share their own beauty. this need is 'idiot compassion'. having a surge of compassion, like a mother has a surge to feed children from her breast. often only hearing the cry of any baby will cause the breasts of the mother to spurt spontaneously. they do not see the other; only themselves

but every now and again this person sees that their painting has reached that rare individual, and their painting brings joy to this rare individual. such a painting can only bring joy to fools. the wise have gone beyond such intoxication.

should this painter keep their ainting hidden?

the painter should go to art school; to learning the art of how to truely paint. the painter needs to realise there are painters far more experienced than them, especially the painter par excellence, namely, the Buddha

however, the painter has not realised what Dhamma Painting is, namely, all experiences are mere ordinariness; mere suchness. the painter has not yet learned to paint with dispassion. the painter claims to have painted a "blackhole of nothing" but also believes their painting to be something of rare beauty.

the painter needs to recognise they are with friends, who have far more experience in painting than them, who offer them painting lessons, as follows:

06-19-2012, 04:54 AM	#4
Dndjzirw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 535 Senior Member	if someone has an experience in life, glimpsing something rarely seen by others. sounds like this person is very alone & under a strong weight of burden/pressure because others have seen these rare things but the painter does not know that. it can be difficult to teach such a person because they believe they are more special than others. even if Buddha came to them, they would not listen so they paint a picture of the flower, the best way they can. but this person is not an artist yes, this is a very clear metaphor. this person is not an artist, just as this person is not enlightened. they are not grounded. they are like a lost sheep that believes they are a shephard, ready to lead a flock. athough there may be a glimpse of a liberated state, the inability to reconcile & accommodate the experience within the greater reality is a salient characteristic of an immature state. for such lost sheep, the Zen masters teach: "If you meet the Buddha on the road [i.e., believe 'you' are Buddha], then kill him". in fact this artists painting causes great suffering to most who look at it. my impression is the painting is causing great suffering to the artist. the artist feels they have secret knowledge, that their accomplishment is rare, that they have an important message for mankind & are an important messenger. they feel they have any "inner need" to share this experience. this "need" is simply lust & confusion. they only see the beauty of their own reflection in a mirror but do not see the other to wish they wish to share their own beauty. this need is 'idiot compassion'. having a surge of compassion, like a mother has a surge to feed children from her breast. often only hearing the cry of any baby will cause the breasts of the mother to spurt spontaneously. they do not see the other; only themselves but every now and again this person sees that their painting has reached that rare individual, and their painting brings joy to this rare individual. such a painting can only bring joy to fools. the wise have gone beyond such intoxication. should this painter keep their ainting hidden? the painter should go to art school; to learning the art of how to truely paint. the painter needs to realise there are painters far more experienced than them, especially the painter par excellence, namely, the Buddha however, the painter has not realised what Dhamma Painting is, namely, all experiences are mere ordinariness; mere suchness. the painter has not yet learned to paint with dispassion. the painter claims to have painted a "blackhole of nothing" but also believes their painting to be something of rare beauty. the painter needs to recognise they are with friends, who have far more experience in painting than them, who offer them painting lessons, as follows:
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