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**Moupponge** · 05-15-2010, 12:07 PM

I have some questions in relation to your question.

If leaving the Bardo state the mindstream enters a new womb, is it then karma that the recipent would choose to have an abortion? And whose karma is it, the individual who has the abortion or the the one who is aborted? Or perhaps it is collective karma?

Hiya Gail,

I'm really sorry but I can't answer your questions because I'm unwilling to speculate about what happens to people after death, or about their karma.

Buddha said :

There are these four unconjecturables that are not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about them. Which four?

"The Buddha-range of the Buddhas is an unconjecturable that is not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about it.

"The jhana-range of a person in jhana...

" **The [precise working out of the] results of kamma...**

"Conjecture about [the origin, etc., of] the world is an unconjecturable that is not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about it.

"These are the four unconjecturables that are not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about them."

AN 4.77 URL
Also, the Buddha didn't teach about Bardo and its only taught in Tibetan Buddhism . Its not recognised by other traditions. The Bardo teachings were composed by Padmasambhava, an Indian teacher who went to Tibet around the ninth century.

Kind wishes to you,

Aloka

05-15-2010, 12:07 PM	#4
Moupponge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	I have some questions in relation to your question. If leaving the Bardo state the mindstream enters a new womb, is it then karma that the recipent would choose to have an abortion? And whose karma is it, the individual who has the abortion or the the one who is aborted? Or perhaps it is collective karma? Hiya Gail, I'm really sorry but I can't answer your questions because I'm unwilling to speculate about what happens to people after death, or about their karma. Buddha said : There are these four unconjecturables that are not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about them. Which four? "The Buddha-range of the Buddhas is an unconjecturable that is not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about it. "The jhana-range of a person in jhana... " The [precise working out of the] results of kamma... "Conjecture about [the origin, etc., of] the world is an unconjecturable that is not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about it. "These are the four unconjecturables that are not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about them." AN 4.77 URL Also, the Buddha didn't teach about Bardo and its only taught in Tibetan Buddhism . Its not recognised by other traditions. The Bardo teachings were composed by Padmasambhava, an Indian teacher who went to Tibet around the ninth century. Kind wishes to you, Aloka
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