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**arcaniagainee** · 09-07-2012, 05:51 PM

On the other hand, there are lots of modern Western teachers (Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield, Sharon Salzberg, Gil Fronsdal, etc.) who respect and draw on traditional teachings and put them in a modern context.

Yes.

To be honest, I'm completely ignorant to the current state of Buddhism in Australia, can you expand on your view Element?

Well, I see AB's view are utterly baseless & very rude. He said:

Like the young teenagers who delight in doing things differently from their parents, new Buddhists in non-Asian countries seem to be going through their own proud adolescence by challenging the boundaries of traditional Buddhism. Fortunately, for both our youngsters and Western Buddhists, the arrogance of youth soon gives way to the mature, long years of understanding and respect for tradition. It is in order to hasten this growing up of Buddhism in Australia. Firstly, AB seems to have history very wrong above. The relative multitude of monks in Australia is something relatively new.

Second, as I mentioned, I knew of two Western Theravadin monks in Sydney, ten years ago. Now both have acquired their country properties and have left the city. AB's monks don't live in the city, as they regard themselves as forest monks.

So which monks are the city dwellers going to take refuge in as Sangha? In regards to the reality & history of Western Buddhism, as I mentioned, AB appears in contradiction.

There are a number of lay group that have build practise centres in Sydney, including financially. Now AB wants to diminish their merit?

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arcaniagainee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 486 Senior Member	On the other hand, there are lots of modern Western teachers (Joseph Goldstein, Jack Kornfield, Sharon Salzberg, Gil Fronsdal, etc.) who respect and draw on traditional teachings and put them in a modern context. Yes. To be honest, I'm completely ignorant to the current state of Buddhism in Australia, can you expand on your view Element? Well, I see AB's view are utterly baseless & very rude. He said: Like the young teenagers who delight in doing things differently from their parents, new Buddhists in non-Asian countries seem to be going through their own proud adolescence by challenging the boundaries of traditional Buddhism. Fortunately, for both our youngsters and Western Buddhists, the arrogance of youth soon gives way to the mature, long years of understanding and respect for tradition. It is in order to hasten this growing up of Buddhism in Australia. Firstly, AB seems to have history very wrong above. The relative multitude of monks in Australia is something relatively new. Second, as I mentioned, I knew of two Western Theravadin monks in Sydney, ten years ago. Now both have acquired their country properties and have left the city. AB's monks don't live in the city, as they regard themselves as forest monks. So which monks are the city dwellers going to take refuge in as Sangha? In regards to the reality & history of Western Buddhism, as I mentioned, AB appears in contradiction. There are a number of lay group that have build practise centres in Sydney, including financially. Now AB wants to diminish their merit?
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