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dear Pali students

i thought to possibly commence a discussion on the following suttas:

Cakkhu, bhikkhave, purāṇakammaṃ abhisaṅkhataṃ abhisañcetayitaṃ vedaniyaṃ daṭṭhabbaṃ…pe… jivhā purāṇakammā abhisaṅkhatā abhisañcetayitā vedaniyā daṭṭhabbā…pe… mano purāṇakammo abhisaṅkhato abhisañcetayito vedaniyo daṭṭhabbo.

Now what, monks, is old kamma? The eye is to be seen as old kamma, fabricated & willed, capable of being felt. The ear... The nose... The tongue... The body... The intellect is to be seen as old kamma, fabricated & willed, capable of being felt. This is called old kamma. (Thanissaro)

What, monks, is old kamma? The eye [ear, nose tongue, body (touch), mind], monks, is to be regarded as old kamma, brought into existence and created by volition, forming a basis for feeling. This, monks, is called 'old kamma.' (Walshe)

And what, bhhikkhus, is old kamma? The eye is old kamma, to be seen as generated and fashioned by volition, as something to be felt. (Bodhi)

SN 35.146 nāyaṃ, bhikkhave, kāyo tumhākaṃ napi aññesaṃ. Purāṇamidaṃ , bhikkhave, kammaṃ abhisaṅkhataṃ abhisañcetayitaṃ vedaniyaṃ daṭṭhabbaṃ’

Friends, this body is not yours nor does it belong to someone else. You ought to see this "old karma" (body) as something concocted by conditions (abhisaṅkhata), as conditioned by impulses (abhisañcetayita), and as capable of experiencing sense objects (vedanīya).

Friends, in the case of this body the noble disciple who has listened well reflects with systematic care concerning paṭiccasamuppāda that "Because this exists, this exists; through the arising of this, this arises; because this does not exist, this does not exist; through the quenching of this, this quenches;" in other words, "with ignorance as condition, there are concoctings; with concoctings as condition, there is consciousness; … and so on through … with birth as condition, there is aging and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair in full. The entire mass of dukkha arises in just this way."

Through the fading away and remainderless quenching of ignorance, concoctings quenches; with the quenching of concoctings, consciousness quenches; with the quenching of consciousness,mind-body quenches; … and so on through … with the quenching of clinging, becoming quenches; with the quenching of becoming, birth quenches; with the quenching of birth, aging and death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair utterly quench. The entire mass of dukkha quenches in just this way."

Buddhadasa
this sutta may be helpful for analysis, as it contains the same Pali words:

Avijjāgato yaṃ, bhikkhave, purisapuggalo puññaṃ ce saṅkhāraṃ abhisaṅkharoti, puññūpagaṃ hoti viññāṇaṃ. Apuññaṃ ce saṅkhāraṃ abhisaṅkharoti, apuññūpagaṃ hoti viññāṇaṃ. Āneñjaṃ ce saṅkhāraṃ abhisaṅkharoti āneñjūpagaṃ hoti viññāṇaṃ.

Bhikkhus, if a person immersed in ignorance generates a meritious formation, consciousness fares on the meritorious; if he generates a demeritious formation, consciousness fares on the demeritorious; if he generates an imperturbable formation, consciousness fares on the imperturbable. (Bodhi)

SN 12.51 what do we think Buddha was explaining here about the eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body & mind being 'old kamma'?