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Old 08-10-2012, 02:25 AM   #10
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The five aggregates does not make sense in the translation. Such a translation is senseless.

It asserts feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, are rooted in chandha (desire).

It asserts feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, gain a footing in the Deathless.

It asserts feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, peak with concentration.

It asserts feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, have wisdom as their supreme state.

It asserts feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, converge on feelings.
Buddha taught:

Feelings & perception are the mind conditioner (citta sankhara). In other words, feeling & perception are the cause of chandha (desire). Desire is not the cause of feeling & perception but feeling & perception is the causes of desire. It follows feeling & perception cannot be rooted in desire.

Feelings do not have wisdom. Arahants feel & such feeling is unrelated to wisdom. If feeling was related to wisdom then wisdom would end feelings. About arahants, Buddha explained:

Here a bhikkhu is an arahant, one whose taints are destroyed, the holy life fulfilled, who has done what had to be done, laid down the burden, attained the goal, destroyed the fetters of being, completely released through final knowledge. However, his five sense faculties remain unimpaired, by which he still experiences what is agreeable and disagreeable and feels pleasure and pain. It is the extinction of attachment, hate, and delusion in him that is called the Nibbana-element.

Itivuttaka: The Group of Twos About wisdom in relation to the consciousness (rather than feeling) aggregate, it was explained:

Discernment & consciousness are conjoined, friend, not disjoined. It's not possible, having separated them one from the other, to delineate the difference between them. For what one discerns, that one cognizes. What one cognizes, that one discerns. Therefore these qualities are conjoined, not disjoined, and it is not possible, having separated them one from another, to delineate the difference between them.

MN 43 Feelings, i.e., pleasant, painful & neither feelings, do not converge on feelings. Instead, it is mindfulness & wisdom that converge on feelings, as Buddha explained:

When a bhikkhu has heard that nothing is worth clinging to, he directly knows everything; having directly known everything, he fully understands everything; having directly known everything, he fully understood everything.

Whatever feeling he feels, whether pleasant or painful or neither pleasant or painful, he abides contemplating (observing) impermanence in those feelings, contemplating (observing) fading away, contemplating (observing) cessation, contemplating (observing) relinquishment (letting go).

Contemplating (observing) thus, he does not cling (think about) to anything in the world. When he does not cling (think about), he is not agitated, he personally attains Nibbana. He understands: ‘Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, there is no more coming to any state of being.’

Briefly, it is in this way, ruler of gods, that a bhikkhu is liberated in the destruction of craving, one who has reached the ultimate end, the ultimate security from bondage, the ultimate holy life, the ultimate goal, one who is foremost among gods and humans.

Culatanhasankhaya Sutta
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