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**shanice** · 07-11-2010, 08:12 AM

"if, Aananda, there were no kamma ripening in the sense realm, would sense-sphere becoming be discerned?"

Also, becoming in the Pali is as follows:
‘‘Katamo ca, bhikkhave, bhavo? Tayo me, bhikkhave, bhavā – kāmabhavo, rūpabhavo, arūpabhavo. Ayaṃ vuccati, bhikkhave, bhavo. Kāma = sensuality. It does not mean 'sense bases' or 'saḷāyatanaṃ'.

The sense realm or sense bases (saḷāyatanikaṃ) are part of the experience of Nibbana, as follows:

He discerns that 'This mode of perception is empty of the effluent of sensuality... becoming... ignorance. And there is just this non-emptiness: that connected with the six sensory spheres (saḷāyatanikaṃ), dependent on this very body with life as its condition.' Thus he regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, he discerns as present: 'There is this.' And so this, his entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, pure — superior & unsurpassed.

Cula-suññata Sutta

07-11-2010, 08:12 AM	#35
shanice Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 374 Senior Member	"if, Aananda, there were no kamma ripening in the sense realm, would sense-sphere becoming be discerned?" Also, becoming in the Pali is as follows: ‘‘Katamo ca, bhikkhave, bhavo? Tayo me, bhikkhave, bhavā – kāmabhavo, rūpabhavo, arūpabhavo. Ayaṃ vuccati, bhikkhave, bhavo. Kāma = sensuality. It does not mean 'sense bases' or 'saḷāyatanaṃ'. The sense realm or sense bases (saḷāyatanikaṃ) are part of the experience of Nibbana, as follows: He discerns that 'This mode of perception is empty of the effluent of sensuality... becoming... ignorance. And there is just this non-emptiness: that connected with the six sensory spheres (saḷāyatanikaṃ), dependent on this very body with life as its condition.' Thus he regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, he discerns as present: 'There is this.' And so this, his entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, pure — superior & unsurpassed. Cula-suññata Sutta
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