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**Tinasblue** · 06-12-2010, 10:03 PM

Once abandoned the mind is no longer "clouded" and the jhana is the natural state that follows. In my opinion the biggest problem is mediators wanting to attain jhanas.

A very important aspect to be considered Craig dear,

Just two cents...

I practice zazen. I am still not ready for shikantaza but I do not find fundamental differences between Jhanas and zazen. In some way, zazen are like Jhanas without wanting to attain Jhanas. We are not so worried about steps and levels...

If I misunderstood something, feedback is wellcome...

06-12-2010, 10:03 PM	#26
Tinasblue Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 301 Senior Member	Once abandoned the mind is no longer "clouded" and the jhana is the natural state that follows. In my opinion the biggest problem is mediators wanting to attain jhanas. A very important aspect to be considered Craig dear, Just two cents... I practice zazen. I am still not ready for shikantaza but I do not find fundamental differences between Jhanas and zazen. In some way, zazen are like Jhanas without wanting to attain Jhanas. We are not so worried about steps and levels... If I misunderstood something, feedback is wellcome...
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