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**gennnniiikk** · 06-16-2010, 04:48 AM

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SriV

I see a link to the Anapanasati Sutta. Step 4 is calming the kaya sankhara and step 7 & 8 is about the citta sankhara. Also, the factors of jhana vitakka & vicara are the vaci sankkhara.

In the discourses on dependent origination, the sankhara are defined as the kaya, vaci & citta sankhara.

The calming of these sankhara (2nd link of dependent origination) is samatha.

The ending of ignorance (1st link of dependent origination) is vipassana.

This is described in the Rahogata Sutta

"There are these six calmings. When one has attained the first jhana, speech [vaci] has been calmed. When one has attained the second jhana, directed thought & evaluation [vaci sankhara] have been calmed. When one has attained the third jhana, rapture [citta sankhara] has been calmed. When one has attained the fourth jhana, in-and-out breathing [kaya sankhara] has been calmed. When one has attained the cessation of perception & feeling, perception & feeling [citta sankhara] have been calmed. When a monk's effluents have ended, passion [greed] has been calmed, aversion [hatred] has been calmed, delusion [ignorance] has been calmed." As I see it, how ignorance stirs up or conditions the sankhara is the various disturbances experienced in meditation. The sankhara are our objects of meditation.

Kaya sankhara = breathing in & out. Vaci sankhara = thought. Citta sankhara = perception & feeling.

They are defined in this way in the suttas (MN 44).

Dependent origination is a process occurring here & now. If this was not the case, how could ignorance be ended if it is something existing in a past life?

06-16-2010, 04:48 AM	#33
gennnniiikk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	[quote=srivijaya #31: ] I followed the ] SriV I see a link to the Anapanasati Sutta. Step 4 is calming the kaya sankhara and step 7 & 8 is about the citta sankhara. Also, the factors of jhana vitakka & vicara are the vaci sankkhara. In the discourses on dependent origination, the sankhara are defined as the kaya, vaci & citta sankhara. The calming of these sankhara (2nd link of dependent origination) is samatha. The ending of ignorance (1st link of dependent origination) is vipassana. This is described in the Rahogata Sutta "There are these six calmings. When one has attained the first jhana, speech [vaci] has been calmed. When one has attained the second jhana, directed thought & evaluation [vaci sankhara] have been calmed. When one has attained the third jhana, rapture [citta sankhara] has been calmed. When one has attained the fourth jhana, in-and-out breathing [kaya sankhara] has been calmed. When one has attained the cessation of perception & feeling, perception & feeling [citta sankhara] have been calmed. When a monk's effluents have ended, passion [greed] has been calmed, aversion [hatred] has been calmed, delusion [ignorance] has been calmed." As I see it, how ignorance stirs up or conditions the sankhara is the various disturbances experienced in meditation. The sankhara are our objects of meditation. Kaya sankhara = breathing in & out. Vaci sankhara = thought. Citta sankhara = perception & feeling. They are defined in this way in the suttas (MN 44). Dependent origination is a process occurring here & now. If this was not the case, how could ignorance be ended if it is something existing in a past life?
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