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**TimoDassss** · 04-20-2010, 09:11 AM

from post #10

1. Depends on what type of cloning, therapeutic or reproductive cloning?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cloning
Therapeutic cloning involves cloning cells from an adult for use in medicine and is an active area of research, while reproductive cloning would involve making cloned humans. I should think the Sutta's passage will be more applicable on the latter.

2. Perhaps, on another hand, in my poor opinion, it can also be...where 'union of father and mother' may be interpreted as the fertilization of the sperm and egg for test tube babies/IVF and cloning cases rather than being restricted to the 'normal biological process', to fit into what is being done and the context of our times today.

3. Then there is also this part...for points 1 & 2
Here, there is the union of the mother and father, and the mother is in season, but the gandhabba (consciousness) is not present - in this case too no descent of the embryo takes place... a. So even if cloning/IVF is done but if the above is not happening...
b. And the points raised by Element with respect to the above quote on consciousness and Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of 'gandhabba'...

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04-20-2010, 09:11 AM	#15
TimoDassss Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	from post #10 1. Depends on what type of cloning, therapeutic or reproductive cloning? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_cloning Therapeutic cloning involves cloning cells from an adult for use in medicine and is an active area of research, while reproductive cloning would involve making cloned humans. I should think the Sutta's passage will be more applicable on the latter. 2. Perhaps, on another hand, in my poor opinion, it can also be...where 'union of father and mother' may be interpreted as the fertilization of the sperm and egg for test tube babies/IVF and cloning cases rather than being restricted to the 'normal biological process', to fit into what is being done and the context of our times today. 3. Then there is also this part...for points 1 & 2 Here, there is the union of the mother and father, and the mother is in season, but the gandhabba (consciousness) is not present - in this case too no descent of the embryo takes place... a. So even if cloning/IVF is done but if the above is not happening... b. And the points raised by Element with respect to the above quote on consciousness and Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of 'gandhabba'... Back to topic...Destruction of Craving...
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