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**8IhGpvH0** · 06-07-2010, 01:34 AM

"And this, monks is the noble truth of the origination of dukkha: the craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight

So is there is only dukkha if craving is accompanied by delight and lust? So when one is awake there is craving but it does not lead to dukkha as there is no delight and lust?

I see where your question arises from, but i do not see the Buddha making the distinction you seem to be implying between "craving accompanied by passion and delight" and an implied, unspoken "craving that is not accompanied by passion & delight", and I have never seen the Buddha speaking of any sort of "craving that is not accompanied by passion & delight".

It seems to me that he is defining craving as being intrinsically accompanied by passion and delight.

06-07-2010, 01:34 AM	#6
8IhGpvH0 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	"And this, monks is the noble truth of the origination of dukkha: the craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight So is there is only dukkha if craving is accompanied by delight and lust? So when one is awake there is craving but it does not lead to dukkha as there is no delight and lust? I see where your question arises from, but i do not see the Buddha making the distinction you seem to be implying between "craving accompanied by passion and delight" and an implied, unspoken "craving that is not accompanied by passion & delight", and I have never seen the Buddha speaking of any sort of "craving that is not accompanied by passion & delight". It seems to me that he is defining craving as being intrinsically accompanied by passion and delight.
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