The difference between Fox and MSNBC boils down to whether you watch their actual "news" segments. Like the Fox VP says, there should be a distinction, and certainly, everything after 5:00 PM on MSNBC is democratic programming. But their news segments that run throughout the day until that point are completely devoid of political persuasion, not swinging either way. Not to mention you have Joe Scarborough presenting a right-to-center view every morning. Whereas, with Fox, even their daily news segments (save Shep Smith) are radically skewed. Case in point: the last time I caught a few minutes of one of Fox's headlines segments, the discussion was on The View cohosts running a coup d'etat on McCain, and one guest offered the explanation as: "The women of The View just can't kill enough babies." And do not even get me started on the Fox and Friends morning show.