I've closed the face to the point that the face is nearly facing the ground...and I straighten it out a bit. I'm sure I'm opening my shoulders up too much, but I just can't seem to shake it. Of course, then there's that one dog leg right that suits my shot perfectly, and I wail away...and it goes about 300 yards...straight...arrrrggggghhhh Anyway, I do try to play the slice, but it's more of a boomerang action...almost guaranteed 90 degree turn...