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**dumadegg** · 02-17-2011, 01:24 PM

I'm not suggesting that this move will fix Wisconsin's fiscal issues. I agree that the governor might just be supporting this for a petty reason as well.

If Wisconsin law protects public unions and the legislature wants to pass a law that differentiates in treatment between public ones and private ones, that's not unconstitutional. Your source of employment is not a protected class.

Federal discrimination laws only apply to gender, race, religion, and sexual orientation.

I side with the idea of restricting public unions on principle, because the public market is different from a private one. When consumers don't have a choice as to whether they can pay for something or not, the rules have to be different from ones governing the open market.

I completely disagree. The people who teach, keep us secure and put out fires are groups are all public oriented groups that deserve to be on the same level with each other.

If you're going to take away the teachers union ability to even negotiate pay increases, but you're going to let police and firefighters have that right, you're clearly discriminating one group and favoring others while all of those jobs are public jobs.

If only public referendums can determine whether teachers get a pay increase, than it should be the same with all public sector jobs.

We're either pissing in the same pool here or we're not.

But the bigger picture narrative here is about an ideology that clearly wants to take away from the bottom and give to the top.

02-17-2011, 01:24 PM	#27
dumadegg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	I'm not suggesting that this move will fix Wisconsin's fiscal issues. I agree that the governor might just be supporting this for a petty reason as well. If Wisconsin law protects public unions and the legislature wants to pass a law that differentiates in treatment between public ones and private ones, that's not unconstitutional. Your source of employment is not a protected class. Federal discrimination laws only apply to gender, race, religion, and sexual orientation. I side with the idea of restricting public unions on principle, because the public market is different from a private one. When consumers don't have a choice as to whether they can pay for something or not, the rules have to be different from ones governing the open market. I completely disagree. The people who teach, keep us secure and put out fires are groups are all public oriented groups that deserve to be on the same level with each other. If you're going to take away the teachers union ability to even negotiate pay increases, but you're going to let police and firefighters have that right, you're clearly discriminating one group and favoring others while all of those jobs are public jobs. If only public referendums can determine whether teachers get a pay increase, than it should be the same with all public sector jobs. We're either pissing in the same pool here or we're not. But the bigger picture narrative here is about an ideology that clearly wants to take away from the bottom and give to the top.
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