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**TeveVikep** · 05-14-2012, 05:48 AM

Those are all good questions. Hiibel vs Nevada establishes that ID must be shown. Again, most people assume court cases like this apply to THEM in the worst possible context. What Hibel establishes is that when you ask them who they are that they must ID themselves.

You need to establish that the coppiceman is in your plane, your time, your place, your space and your lawform.

You must also be acutely aware that the cop has a gun and can invalidate all your rights with a single round of ammunition, and never be held to account for it.

The cops do not protect us. Anyone who believes they do is in for a rude shock. You have to assert your rights or else you don't have them. Even in a state of pusillanimity. These are your common law rights. Cops don't enforce laws. They enforce statutes which are corporate policy.

Hatha

05-14-2012, 05:48 AM	#2
TeveVikep Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 483 Senior Member	Those are all good questions. Hiibel vs Nevada establishes that ID must be shown. Again, most people assume court cases like this apply to THEM in the worst possible context. What Hibel establishes is that when you ask them who they are that they must ID themselves. You need to establish that the coppiceman is in your plane, your time, your place, your space and your lawform. You must also be acutely aware that the cop has a gun and can invalidate all your rights with a single round of ammunition, and never be held to account for it. The cops do not protect us. Anyone who believes they do is in for a rude shock. You have to assert your rights or else you don't have them. Even in a state of pusillanimity. These are your common law rights. Cops don't enforce laws. They enforce statutes which are corporate policy. Hatha
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