Some vaccines from personal experience are good and helped. Tho I do not promote forced use of them. If you want to see a world wide kill off, stop all vaccines and in a few years it will happen. Now so far as research goes, do we want to save life's or what, all forms of medicine in a way helps each other. Tho I hate to see animals used in research. Now which one is totally right and the other totally wrong? Not in my pay grade. But I can say this, western medicine is recognized world wide that it trumps all or most methods practiced world wide. Ask why most people in the world that can afford it , comes here to be treated. I am not defending but stating a truth that I have seen and witnessed in my short life. Question? Have you ever seen anyone in an iron lung? I have, and people wheelchair bound because of one nasty that vaccines have almost have totally eliminated from this world.