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**Pinkman** · 12-27-2011, 11:06 PM

As to either “The United States of America” or “The United States”, these are two separate entities, one controlled by the Articles of Confederation and the other by a constitution. What those entities are is guided by the following definition from Bouviers 1856 Law Dictionary:

MUNICIPALITY. The body of officers, taken collectively, belonging to a city, who are appointed to manage its affairs and defend its interests.

Neither entity has anything to do with territory, land or provinces. Both entities have to do with who have been assigned to oversee their affairs.

Look at it this way. In the Navy CINCPACFLEET is a particular admiral who controls specific ships and shore facilities. When this particular admiral arrives at one of his ships the bos’n pipes his whistle and announces “CINCPACFLEET arriving”. No one confuses this with the arrival of all the ships the Admiral is in charge of. Everyone aboard knows the head honcho has arrived.

Same with the president of the U.S. (of U.S. of A. … depending upon his hat). Watch how he is announced when he steps onto a military facility.

When it comes to the President everyone complains about his increase of the national debt. As it is his debt my own view is that he can pile up as much of it as he can tolerate (or as much as his creditors can tolerate). As I have no involvement in his debt he can go bankrupt for all I care. I believe we might be better off if everyone gets weened off of the U.S. dollar anyway.

Back on topic. The United States is not a thing. It is not land. It is not territory. It is the officers assigned to represent that entity. When you plan upon defending its' honor it a WHO you are defending not a WHAT.

12-27-2011, 11:06 PM	#1
Pinkman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 593 Senior Member	If You Plan Upon Defending The Honor of The United States WHO Are You Defending As to either “The United States of America” or “The United States”, these are two separate entities, one controlled by the Articles of Confederation and the other by a constitution. What those entities are is guided by the following definition from Bouviers 1856 Law Dictionary: MUNICIPALITY. The body of officers, taken collectively, belonging to a city, who are appointed to manage its affairs and defend its interests. Neither entity has anything to do with territory, land or provinces. Both entities have to do with who have been assigned to oversee their affairs. Look at it this way. In the Navy CINCPACFLEET is a particular admiral who controls specific ships and shore facilities. When this particular admiral arrives at one of his ships the bos’n pipes his whistle and announces “CINCPACFLEET arriving”. No one confuses this with the arrival of all the ships the Admiral is in charge of. Everyone aboard knows the head honcho has arrived. Same with the president of the U.S. (of U.S. of A. … depending upon his hat). Watch how he is announced when he steps onto a military facility. When it comes to the President everyone complains about his increase of the national debt. As it is his debt my own view is that he can pile up as much of it as he can tolerate (or as much as his creditors can tolerate). As I have no involvement in his debt he can go bankrupt for all I care. I believe we might be better off if everyone gets weened off of the U.S. dollar anyway. Back on topic. The United States is not a thing. It is not land. It is not territory. It is the officers assigned to represent that entity. When you plan upon defending its' honor it a WHO you are defending not a WHAT.
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