Game-Dog.com is the place for you, sir. They're more into APBT bloodlines and history of the breed. I started out there. =) But they're too centralized for my taste. Still, that's the place you want to go. I love Tom Garner's dogs. Absolutely wonderful specimens of the breed. And crocodile has one hell of a ped on him. I really want to own a Chinaman dog one day. I've heard Morgan's name but I don't have any info to offer, sadly. Garner, though, has a long history of many serious bulldogs. They've got everything that'll have an APBT enthusiast drooling. Haha, I'm sorry. I'll go on forever about those dogs. But anyway, check out the gamedog forum. They'll help you out. =)