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**KitRittyTug** · 10-18-2011, 02:20 AM

What really gets me is when people say (like the trainer, but I hear it a lot) a prong is a crutch... What the hell do you think a choke is?! And I don't consider it a crutch, I consider it a safety net...

I use a prong collar on a couple of my dogs.I find them MUCH safer than choke collars.I know I would have MUCH more control in a given situation with a prong,than a choke.

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So, the prong collars are safer to use than choker chains? I always thought it was the other way around because of the way the prong collars looked.

Looks are decieving. Chokes use a lot of force to elicit a 'correction' than prongs.With a choke chain,a ''quick snap'' is usually a jerking motion and clamping of a metal ligature(choke chain) around the dogs neck.If the dog is fitted improperly this can damage the Larynx,and vertebral alignments,as well as cause soft tissue/ligament and tendon injury.A prong closes without the jerking motion and less force is typically needed for a correction with prongs.The fit of the prong holds the collar in correct placement once properly fitted.It just closes enough during correction to elicit a response.No force,jerking or slipping.The jerking/force is what does the damage with chokes(that and improper fitting/placement).NOT to say an improperly used prong cannot cause damage,but a choke chain will cause trauma because of the ''jerking'' motion of the correction even when used correctly.(think whiplash vs pressure)

10-18-2011, 02:20 AM	#33
KitRittyTug Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	What really gets me is when people say (like the trainer, but I hear it a lot) a prong is a crutch... What the hell do you think a choke is?! And I don't consider it a crutch, I consider it a safety net... I use a prong collar on a couple of my dogs.I find them MUCH safer than choke collars.I know I would have MUCH more control in a given situation with a prong,than a choke. ---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:10 PM ---------- So, the prong collars are safer to use than choker chains? I always thought it was the other way around because of the way the prong collars looked. Looks are decieving. Chokes use a lot of force to elicit a 'correction' than prongs.With a choke chain,a ''quick snap'' is usually a jerking motion and clamping of a metal ligature(choke chain) around the dogs neck.If the dog is fitted improperly this can damage the Larynx,and vertebral alignments,as well as cause soft tissue/ligament and tendon injury.A prong closes without the jerking motion and less force is typically needed for a correction with prongs.The fit of the prong holds the collar in correct placement once properly fitted.It just closes enough during correction to elicit a response.No force,jerking or slipping.The jerking/force is what does the damage with chokes(that and improper fitting/placement).NOT to say an improperly used prong cannot cause damage,but a choke chain will cause trauma because of the ''jerking'' motion of the correction even when used correctly.(think whiplash vs pressure)
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