I didn't disagree with you. The point I was making is, it's not like people let loose dogs 20 years ago and then went back to get them. We're talking HUNDREDS of years ago, dogs escaped from settlers and Native Americans took them in and a new breed was created over time. You made it sound like it all happened in 50 years or so, which is the point I was arguing. How long does it take before you consider dogs "wild" ?