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**Nabeqiv** · 12-31-2010, 02:43 AM

Basically, what I understand is that back when bullies first 'came into existence', dave wilson crossed APBTs with AmStaffs in a hope to have a more mellow (as in DA) dog that could still perform, and created the RE bloodline.

I think he and his minions also (and mostly) wanted that big, heavy-boned, heavy-headed, thick look and simply started breeding ASTs and APBTs that WERE that. It wasn't a difficult thing to do and he simply bred what are considered by most to be really bad, incorrect Stafs and Pits. And it got horribly taken to extremes and while the beginnings were bad enough, what it has ended up to be is one very sad exploitation of a breed by some very unethical people.

Now the whole bullie thing is ridiculous and confusing (my opinion). The bullee people will tell you a bully is recognizable by PEDIGREE, not by looks; so if a dog is a racy, game-bred type looking dog, if it has some Gaff or Razor's edge in it's pedigree, it's a bullie! So, whatever....

The bullie lovers won't admit that they are just breeding very incorrect ASTs and APBTs. They need SOMETHING to make it all sound legit, so they have shows and different classes for all the different types that can be bullies.

In reality, it's all a farce (my opinion) and gets taken way to seriously by people like the OP. There is NOTHING to know, no history to learn, no pedigrees to know, no differences between "breeds" -- except the bulie crowd is breeding very incorrect ASTs and APBTs.

Here is another article to read that I think is very good and may also help answer some of your questions.

Bully: This, That The Other Thing - American Bullies and 'bully style' Pit Bulls

Carla

12-31-2010, 02:43 AM	#25
Nabeqiv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 481 Senior Member	Basically, what I understand is that back when bullies first 'came into existence', dave wilson crossed APBTs with AmStaffs in a hope to have a more mellow (as in DA) dog that could still perform, and created the RE bloodline. I think he and his minions also (and mostly) wanted that big, heavy-boned, heavy-headed, thick look and simply started breeding ASTs and APBTs that WERE that. It wasn't a difficult thing to do and he simply bred what are considered by most to be really bad, incorrect Stafs and Pits. And it got horribly taken to extremes and while the beginnings were bad enough, what it has ended up to be is one very sad exploitation of a breed by some very unethical people. Now the whole bullie thing is ridiculous and confusing (my opinion). The bullee people will tell you a bully is recognizable by PEDIGREE, not by looks; so if a dog is a racy, game-bred type looking dog, if it has some Gaff or Razor's edge in it's pedigree, it's a bullie! So, whatever.... The bullie lovers won't admit that they are just breeding very incorrect ASTs and APBTs. They need SOMETHING to make it all sound legit, so they have shows and different classes for all the different types that can be bullies. In reality, it's all a farce (my opinion) and gets taken way to seriously by people like the OP. There is NOTHING to know, no history to learn, no pedigrees to know, no differences between "breeds" -- except the bulie crowd is breeding very incorrect ASTs and APBTs. Here is another article to read that I think is very good and may also help answer some of your questions. Bully: This, That The Other Thing - American Bullies and 'bully style' Pit Bulls Carla
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