Sorry I meant the community meaning the "pitbull" community. Meaning people who say that is not a pitbull *finger shake* because there are no papers, it is a mutt. Those who demand I dont call my dog a pitbull because that term only refers to the APBT, but at the same time the UKC refers to several breeds as pitbulls, it seems like an easy way of dividing the community if you ask me ---------- Post added at 10:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 AM ---------- Obed, feel free to edit my posting- its pre-coffee hour