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**Ifroham4** · 03-14-2010, 04:06 AM

Sorry I meant the community meaning the "pitbull" community. Meaning people who say that is not a pitbull *finger shake* because there are no papers, it is a mutt. Those who demand I dont call my dog a pitbull because that term only refers to the APBT, but at the same time the UKC refers to several breeds as pitbulls, it seems like an easy way of dividing the community if you ask me

LOL papers don't mean shit. Let's be honest, what is a pitbull, or more specifically, an apbt? An apbt is a dog that displays gameness first and foremost. Most of these "papered" dogs are ADBA, UKC, and AKC showdogs. Now not making any assumptions or speculations here, but I doubt any of them have been tested for gameness. Furthermore, I doubt most of these showdogs, ADBA included, can be used for the breed's original purposes (animal baiting and catchwork.) Now you can go to New Jersey, Florida, Louisiana, etc. and find hog doggers that run apbts descended from some of the most known and reputable lines out there. My dad's friend in Jersey is a hog hunter and his pack descends from dogs directly off of Bert Sorrell's. They are pure, however, he never registered them. Most hog hunters with apbt catchdogs that are pure don't bother registering them since it is just a waist of money to them. They just breed for working ability. One of his top catchdogs and stud is a 53# dog that caught a 400+ lb. monster himself. Also the dog almost came close to death and if the hit was 1/2 an inch closer from the cut collar, that dog would be dead. He kept on going strong despite the broken ribs and was cut up badly. That dog isn't papered, but is pure sorrell's blood. Now you tell me, which is a true apbt, this unpapered catchdog, or the papered champion weightpull/ conformation dogs? Remember, the dog makes the papers.

03-14-2010, 04:06 AM	#1
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	Sorry I meant the community meaning the "pitbull" community. *Meaning people who say that is not a pitbull finger shake* because there are no papers, it is a mutt. Those who demand I dont call my dog a pitbull because that term only refers to the APBT**, but at the same time the UKC refers to several breeds as pitbulls, it seems like an easy way of dividing the community if you ask me LOL papers don't mean shit. Let's be honest, what is a pitbull, or more specifically, an apbt? An apbt is a dog that displays gameness first and foremost. Most of these "papered" dogs are ADBA, UKC, and AKC showdogs. Now not making any assumptions or speculations here, but I doubt any of them have been tested for gameness. Furthermore, I doubt most of these showdogs, ADBA included, can be used for the breed's original purposes (animal baiting and catchwork.) Now you can go to New Jersey, Florida, Louisiana, etc. and find hog doggers that run apbts descended from some of the most known and reputable lines out there. My dad's friend in Jersey is a hog hunter and his pack descends from dogs directly off of Bert Sorrell's. They are pure, however, he never registered them. Most hog hunters with apbt catchdogs that are pure don't bother registering them since it is just a waist of money to them. They just breed for working ability. One of his top catchdogs and stud is a 53# dog that caught a 400+ lb. monster himself. Also the dog almost came close to death and if the hit was 1/2 an inch closer from the cut collar, that dog would be dead. He kept on going strong despite the broken ribs and was cut up badly. That dog isn't papered, but is pure sorrell's blood. Now you tell me, which is a true apbt, this unpapered catchdog, or the papered champion weightpull/ conformation dogs? Remember, the dog makes the papers.
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